Jed, your comparison seems appropriate at first glance, except you forgot one 
thing.

Actuarial Studies and Medicine are fields of science with solid 
mathematical,experimental and actual data.  It is hard science that is 
refutable and falsiable and has stood the test of time.

Global Warming and Weather forecasting is based on assumptions made in the 
modelling.  The models used are all assumptions that are no more accurate that 
a 10 year old guessing what the weather will be like tommorrow.  Supporters of 
Global Warming are only able to claim good results because of the 
aforementioned "all-inclusive" symptoms list.  Everything is taken as proof of 
the theory.


Jojo
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jed Rothwell 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming?


  ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Bullsh&t


  The comparison between weather forecasting and long term climate change is 
not bullshit at all. It has been made by many experts. There are many other 
scientific fields with similar limitations, and also fields such as history, 
psychology, social science research, some areas of engineering and physics, and 
much else in which similar statistical proof is available but it does not work 
in a more granular analyses, or on a shorter timescale. This is common 
knowledge. You can learn about it in detail. You should not call this concept 
"bullshit" if you have not studied it. Frankly, you are out of line in this 
forum publishing such an ignorant dismissal.


  To be a little more specific, do you have the notion that an insurance 
company can tell you the year and month when you will die? That would be magic. 
Unless you happen to have a serious, terminal disease, no one can tell you 
that. But any insurance company can sell you a policy, and they can be sure 
that in the aggregate, their policies will make money, barring some major 
disaster such as 1918 avian influenza.


  I would also point out that short term weather forecasts are incredibly 
accurate these days, and the error ranges are well understood by forecasters. 
Everyone knows you can predict the weather in Georgia, but not in southern 
Pennsylvania. (Or, for Pennsylvania, you can say: "there will be rain, 
sunshine, clouds and bright sun repeated at random times during the day," which 
is a sort of forecast, after all.)


  - Jed

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