Hoi,
Let us be clear that what whatever Wikipedia does is for that Wikipedia to
decide. It does not follow automatically that it must be the label for that
language..
Thanks,
GerardM
On 26 April 2015 at 14:22, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru> wrote:
> On 2015-04-23 01:21, Stas Malyshev wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Careful, this is one of the most debated and dramatic style issues after
>>> citation format!
>>> Actual transliteration should clearly follow scientific/ISO standards
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_transliteration_of_Cyrillic .
>>>
>>
>> Well, "scientific/ISO standards" is in this case at least three
>> different standards, and 11 standards if you include commonly used ones
>> :) E.g. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Russian
>>
>> However the labels and aliases are in languages like "it" and "fr", so
>>> they're supposedly translations rather than mere transliterations. This
>>> makes things more complex.
>>>
>>
>> Yes. I see that the bot is setting language labels for entities, so for
>> this both language-specific transliterations and common usage can be
>> important. Which for Russian for example can be quite crazy,
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q187349's last name is "Ватсон" but
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1187613's is "Уотсон". And I have no idea
>> what is the correct romanization of
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4105300's name.
>>
>
> This is what we commonly use at the English Wikipedia for romanization of
> Russian:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Romanization_of_Russian
>
> It was already noted that the Russian Wikipedia uses the reverse order for
> names (Dostoyevsky, Fyodor Mikhaylovich), whereas there is no reason to use
> this order on Wikidata. The reasonable options should be either "Fyodor
> Dostoyevsky" or (less preferable to me) "Fyodor Mikhaylovich Dostoyevsky".
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
>
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