I 100% agree. I just responded to someone where I noted that "The bootstrapper
and more CustomActions/Extensions are the future of WiX." I believe that.
Finishing WiX v2 is a very good thing then I'm going to go back to working on
the bootstrapper for all the reasons you list below and more.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peterson, Joel
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 13:16
To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
In the underlying complexity, I'm sure SQL 2005 is more complex than Exchange
2007. The prerequisite detection, user interface, and installation
customization (and how they pass information on to the MSIs) of all of these
Microsoft bootstrappers are amazing. It'd be nice to have generic forms of
each, for sure.
We're looking to wrap all of our products and add-ons into individual WiX-based
MSIs, with an Exchange 2007-style localized bootstrapper as the CD autorun for
installation. I've done some research into companies that might offer toolkits
to do this, but there really are none. It'd make WiX, and Windows Installer in
general, all the better if this sort of thing was available.
Joel Peterson
Quality Assurance Engineer
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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:21 PM
To: Peterson, Joel; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
I talk to those teams regularly (SQL is more interesting than Exchange, IMHO).
The trick is how to take their very specialized solutions and make them generic
enough to solve all of the different problems we all face here. That, and
often their solutions need to be scaled (down) such to be more useful by
"smaller applications".
From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:58
To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Get some examples from the Office, Exchange, and Visual Studio teams, and
you're set. Their bootstrappers are awesome.
Joel Peterson
Quality Assurance Engineer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:04 AM
To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
On my todo list. You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3. I've
actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get the v2
CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call it done.
Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that
as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer.
I wish WIX had this capability...
Thanks - dave
David Thielen
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From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM
To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites
and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if
you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the
official microsoft site when/if they are needed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM
To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Dave,
You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It
provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app.
The redistributables can be got from local source or the web.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen
Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Hi;
We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a
prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer
"too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!)
So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an
automatic part of our install. So my questions are:
1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they
click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically?
2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our
installer?
2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go?
thanks - dave
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