Hi

Some more points for wishlist for the wix bootstrapper... (all IMHO)

- The major feature the <GenerateBoostrapper> task lacks is the
possibility to create custom user interface. That startup dialog is
just ugly. It would be very nice if wix's native bootstrapper allowed
custom UI (I mean, for example, a possibility of HTML-based UI). Wix
bootstrapper could provide some sort of API to create user interface
part...

- it would be very nice if wix bootstrapper understood MSBuild's
pre-requisite package definition files. :-) They seem to be flexible
enough to check and install almost anything… And no extra work is
needed to author typical pre-requisite packages.

- The <GenerateBoostrapper> task lacks the posibility of selecting
installer language. It would be great if if WiX bootstrapper supported
that.

Kind regards, Nikolay

2006/12/6, David Thielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>
> Hi;
>
> A couple of features that would be VERY nice in this:
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> Optional prerequisites. The .NET 2.0 language pack, J# language pack, and
> Sql Server Express are all optional prerequisites. The first 2 are suggested
> and the 3rd (in our case) is only needed if they don't have a database to
> use already.
>
> The ability to have links to explinations/help for each item. There should
> be standard MS links for the MS items but we can override those (for example
> in our case the link for Sql Server Express).
>
> The ability to add our own prerequisites that include a UI to prompt them.
> For example, we require a SMTP server - and if they pick the IIS one (the
> default) we then need to make sure it's installed & enabled. But they can
> pick another.
>
> thanks - dave
>
>
>  ________________________________
>
> From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tue 12/5/2006 2:16 PM
>
> To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
>
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>
>
> In the underlying complexity, I'm sure SQL 2005 is more complex than
> Exchange 2007. The prerequisite detection, user interface, and installation
> customization (and how they pass information on to the MSIs) of all of these
> Microsoft bootstrappers are amazing. It'd be nice to have generic forms of
> each, for sure.
>
>
>
> We're looking to wrap all of our products and add-ons into individual
> WiX-based MSIs, with an Exchange 2007-style localized bootstrapper as the CD
> autorun for installation. I've done some research into companies that might
> offer toolkits to do this, but there really are none. It'd make WiX, and
> Windows Installer in general, all the better if this sort of thing was
> available.
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>
> Joel Peterson
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>
> Quality Assurance Engineer
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:21 PM
> To: Peterson, Joel; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
>
>
>
> I talk to those teams regularly (SQL is more interesting than Exchange,
> IMHO).  The trick is how to take their very specialized solutions and make
> them generic enough to solve all of the different problems we all face here.
>  That, and often their solutions need to be scaled (down) such to be more
> useful by "smaller applications".
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>
> From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:58
> To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
>
>
>
> Get some examples from the Office, Exchange, and Visual Studio teams, and
> you're set. Their bootstrappers are awesome.
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>
> Joel Peterson
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>
> Quality Assurance Engineer
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>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Rob Mensching
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:04 AM
> To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
>
>
>
> On my todo list.  You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3.
> I've actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get
> the v2 CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call
> it done.  Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper.
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>
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>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of David Thielen
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
>
>
>
> I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do
> that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS
> installer.
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>
>
> I wish WIX had this capability…
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>
>
> Thanks - dave
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> David Thielen
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> www.windwardreports.com
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> 303-499-2544 x1185
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> Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
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>  ________________________________
>
>
> From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM
> To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
>
>
>
> Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your
> prerequisites and then launch your setup.  It can get the prereqs from your
> local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the
> prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed.
>
>
>  ________________________________
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Osmond
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM
> To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
>
> Dave,
>
>
>
> You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup).  It
> provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your
> app.  The redistributables can be got from local source or the web.
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx
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>
>
> Michael
>
>
>  ________________________________
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of David Thielen
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
>
>
> Hi;
>
>
>
>
>
> We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a
> prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer
> "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!)
>
>
>
>
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> So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an
> automatic part of our install. So my questions are:
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>
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> 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they
> click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically?
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> 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our
> installer?
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> 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go?
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> thanks - dave
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