Nick Fitzsimons wrote: > On 8 Mar 2007, at 16:37:15, Thierry Koblentz wrote: >> But this definition applies to more than just table elements, >> isn't? In the >> above, we could replace the words "first column" with "dt" and >> "second column" with "dd" and it would make as much sense...
> On the other hand, I personally believe that the use of a dl in this > example would make no *semantic* sense. After all, given the term > "President", the definition of that term would be something like "The > individual in charge of the organisation". "John Smith" simply cannot > be seen as a *definition* of the term "President", but is rather the > personal name of that entity which is *denoted* by the term > "President". > If it was called a "denotation list", then fair enough; but it's a > definition list, for grouping terms with their definitions (whatever > vague examples may be given in the standard). I see your point, but I'm not sure I agree as "definition" is often replaced by "description" which leaves more room for interpretation. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#h-10.3 The two examples given would relate to the "definition" concept you point out, but what about: <quote> Another application of DL, for example, is for marking up dialogues, with each DT naming a speaker, and each DD containing his or her words. </quote> In this case, the words in the DDs are *not* the definition of the speakers, it's even far from that... > Note also that all the elements and attributes of the HTML table > model that promote accessibility (summary, caption, axis, headers, > scope, abbr) are absent when a list of some kind is used. Still, I've > never come across anybody other than myself who uses them anyway :-( I don't think simple tables call for all the attributes in the box though. But anyway, talking about accessibility, marking up the given example with "accessible" table markup, would - imho - make screenreader users listen to information (mostly related to the table itself, not its content) they wouldn't even need to understand the data if it was marked up as a simple DL for example. --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
