On Wed, February 11, 2009 18:16, Uwe Dippel wrote:
> I need to disappoint you here, LED inactive for a few seconds is a very
> bad indicator of pending writes. Used to experience this on a stick on
> Ubuntu, which was silent until the 'umount' and then it started to write
> for some 10 seconds.

Yikes, that's bizarre.

> On the other hand, you are spot-on w.r.t. 'umount'. Once the command is
> through, there is no more write to be expected. And if there was, it would
> be a serious bug. So this 'umount'ed system needs to be in perfectly
> consistent states. (Which is why I wrote further up that the structure
> above the file system, that is the pool, is probably the culprit for all
> this misery.)

Yeah, once it's unmounted it really REALLY should be in a consistent state.

> [i]Conversely, anybody who is pulling disks / memory sticks off while IO
> is
> visibly incomplete really SHOULD expect to lose everything on them[/i]
> I hope you don't mean this. Not in a filesystem much hyped and much
> advanced. Of course, we expect corruption of all files whose 'write' has
> been boldly interrupted. But I for one, expect the metadata of all other
> files to be readily available. Kind of, at the next use, telling me:"You
> idiot removed the plug last, while files were still in the process of
> writing. Don't expect them to be available now. Here is the list of all
> other files: [list of all files not being written then]"

It's good to have hopes, certainly.  I'm just kinda cynical.
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