the whole kdj catalog is being repressed right now, all limited (isn't
everything, though?)


----- Original Message -----
From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Save the vinyl info


> Shades of Jae, and a large number of other Moodymann titles have been
> repressed  at least twice (last summer for sure, and once before that in
> recent memory).
>
> Let's face facts:
> 1. Record pressing plants want to make money
>     ergo
>     they press the records people pay them to press.
> 2. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
>
> Cheers
> todd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee Herrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [313] Save the vinyl info
>
>
> > ....you know I have always wondered what keeps some artists from having
> > their "classic" work repressed.  I would love to be able to stop by Bent
> > Crayon and pick up early Metamorphic, or KDJ EP's.  For whatever reason
> > after the first 800-3000 copies are distributed and sold that's it.  The
> > Peacefrog label even has a compilation series called "deletions" [a
> > collection of long out-of-print vinyl titles].
> >   I caught an earful of "shades of jae" the other week.  Intrigued, I
> > attempted to locate a merchant or distributor that carried a copy.  No
> luck.
> > Perhaps the artists or labels do not feel there is enough demand to
> justify
> > the cost of a second issue.  Makes you wish you could go back in time.
> >
> > save the vinyl
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:08 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [313] Save the vinyl info
> >
> > >From: "jim proffit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: [313] Save the vinyl info
> > >Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 07:10:27
> > >
> > >fabrice Lig:
> > >
> > >>>I talked several times to some people from Vinyl pressing factories
and
> > >>>eachone told me that they are really really busy and always too much
> > >>>records to press.
> > >
> > >Michael Kim:
> > >
> > >>how about cutting down the number of bad releases instead?  ;)
> >
> > well i was just kidding (notice the wink sign), but i'll continue this
> > discussion for the hell of it...  read on
> >
> > >I think cutting down the number of releases would eventually be
> > >catastrophic
> > >for this music scene.
> > >
> > >Factories would have to close down their businesses when there wouldn't
> be
> > >enough work (records to make) and thus cause the pressing prices go
> higher
> > >and higher, making it useless to release this music on vinyl when at
the
> > >end
> > >a record could cost you twice as much as it does now.
> > >
> > >Only the strongest pressing plants would survive, and eventually
there'd
> be
> > >only 2 or 3 pressing plants IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
> > >Not much choice there.
> > >
> > >I think this effect is already showing the way average record price has
> > >been
> > >steadily rising in the last 15 years, and the amount of new dance
> releases
> > >per month should now be higher that ever?
> >
> > i think that's mostly due to inflation.  i mean, nobody claims the
reason
> > for higher burger prices is due to mad cow disease, right?  higher cost
of
> > operation, higher prices to the consumer.  price of a Big Mac combo meal
> 15
> > years ago sure wasn't over $4.
> >
> > i also don't think it would be that big a deal.  i'm no economics
expert,
> so
> > maybe my opinion isn't as valid as yours, but there are so many horrible
> > records coming out and so few pressings of good ones in comparison.  why
> not
> > just make MORE copies of good records?  i don't think you'll have
problems
> > selling reissues of classics, look how fast Cybotron - Clear went.
> >
> > okay, maybe it might take a little bit of creativity out of the equation
> if
> > everybody has the same records, but i've seen horrible records sit in
> > shelves for years.  a pressing plant may be pressing it, but if nobody
> buys
> > it, somebody's got to pay for that.
> >
> > also, look at how many Swedish imitation records come out.  they sound
the
> > same, no new ideas, more than half of the Swedish sounding records are
> > garbage.  i mean, do these records really need to be released
constantly?
> > if you miss one, you can find twenty others the next week that sound
just
> > like it.  on a big system, it's REALLY hard to differentiate between two
> > tracks a lot of the time because they're so similar.
> >
> > (note: i'm not trying to say all Swedish techno sounds bad, a lot of it
is
> > quite good, but you all know the imitations i'm talking about)
> >
> > i really wish record pressing plants would concentrate on making more
> copies
> > of good records, and reissuing good older records and classics that they
> > KNOW will sell, rather than pressing the latest record that nobody will
> > remember or care about two weeks after its release.  because people who
> are
> > relatively new to record buying, like me, can find the good stuff and
buy
> > the classics up on sight.
> >
> > >It's a sort of Amazon jungle this "dance" music business; you have to
> have
> > >as many species as possible in order to keep the ecological balance.
> >
> > yeah, but how many other people here are sick of listening to 50 bad
> records
> > to find 1 good one?  bad not as in missed the boat, but bad as in
copycat
> > bullsh*t records that you can't imagine anybody (with any reasonable
> amount
> > of taste) buying?
> >
> > Fabrice Lig mentioned record pressing plants having way too many records
> to
> > press.  i think the constant onslaught of garbage records has something
to
> > do with that.
> >
> > Mike
> >
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