even though maybe you can't sew for stealing intellectual property when it comes to drums and baselines, you can still sew for the mechanical rights.... it's a recording someone else did, you stole it... if you program the excact same drum pattern, nobody can do anything, but if you sample it from somebody else's recording.... well you're basically a theif!
Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell > Hello, > > It was this way. It used to be that the bassline and drum pattern were not > considered part of the song. The melody and lyrics were the only thing > recognized under the law. I have a side thread going with Phred on this, so > I will sum them both up together. There was a group whose name escapes me > that completely stole the drum patterns and bassline from Pump Up The Volume > by M/A/R/R/S and 4AD took them to court. The arguement in court was whether > or not the bassline constituted a melody. If it did, then 4AD could take > legal recourse, and if not, then they were out of luck. > > Again with Ice Ice Baby, that track was pretty late in the game for legal > challenges like that. Pump Up The Volume was out in 87, and Ice Ice Baby was > out in 89-90 right? > > Take care, > mt > > > >From: Eric Scuccimarra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Mike Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell > >Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:06:26 -0400 > > > > > >>I remember seeing an interview with (I think) Bootsy Collins, who remarked > >>that (at least it used to be) you couldn't sue someone over a drum pattern > >>or a bass line. Melodies and lyrics only. So if there's not much more to a > >>track than beats and bass, you put it out at your own risk. "That's not a > >>song". That is, outside of electronic music, the studio is still > >>considered window dressing. I just doubt there's much precedent in the law > >>for what would be considered engineering techniques, like the EQing of a > >>vocal sample. > > > >Regarding the bass line issue - what about "Ice Ice Baby" and "Under > >Pressure?" > > > >That was a law suit over a bassline and a successful one if I remember > >correctly. The former track shared nothing in common with the latter except > >for an obviously ripped off bassline but there was still a lawsuit over it. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
