I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample...
IMHO there is no way. Have you ever tried to sample stuff and use it
in a
track? There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a clean
enough
version of that string part of the track to be able to sample it
and
make Jaguar with it.
On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 09:58 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
the jungle producer adam f replayed a big chuck of a bob james
track (nautilus i think it was) and turned it into a jungle tune
that got released on a major and AFAIK didnt get sample clearance.
so you dont necessarily need to have it clean.....
True, if you want to play it back "wholesale" like Adam F did. It's in
the sample: do they life the whole phrase, (with several instruments in
the lifted segment at once, [drums, strings, horns, etc.]) or do you
lift a fragment of an instrument when it is left out in the open (in
this case, some have said the string sound) and sample it so you play
it back in a different melody -- and also use that same string sound
to somehow create that extremely elaborate solo at the end). It's
just not the case here that listening to Jaguar it could have been
constructed from a wholesale "chunk" sample of the TCOY track.
Again your Adam F example makes sense in most cases, sure, you don't
have something clean to sample it. But in the case of the argument
that says Jaguar is sampled, find me the loop of TCOY in Jaguar that
was lifted straight-up like that... there isn't one.
peace
Matt MacQueen
ps - Adam F also makes a cool track on that same LP that samples all
different parts from Miles Davis "Bitches Brew" (forgot which track)
that is almost like a homage to it... extremely obvious, long whoelsale
lifted parts. But with great beats underneath, I like it, Miles crazy
muted trumpet blasting out and the spooky fog of the electric
piano/organ sounds. For the record I have nothing against sampling at
all, I just truly don't think Jaguar had anything to do with the TCOY
track, and it pains me to see the assumptions based on those
assumptions.
