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From: "Matt MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: (313) "Jaguar" Strings on 80s House record?


> I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample... IMHO
> there is no way.  Have you ever tried to sample stuff and use it in a
> track?  There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a clean enough
> version of that string part of the track to be able to sample it and
> make Jaguar with it.   Still, everyone's ears are subjective and it's
> something neither of us can conclusively prove one way or the other.
> :)


Exactly. If someone doesn't want to buy that it can't be a sample based on
technical or melodic considertions, the argument remains the two ships
passing in the night that it is. However, there is
99.99999999999999999999999999999% no way it could have been sampled, either
because of the derth of other sounds cluttering those strings throughout, or
because (to my ears), there is not a single point in the original where a
string plays 1 sustained monotone note, and if you sample the chord, you
can't reconstruct a 'normal' sounding chord out of where it came from, which
is precisely how Jaguar is constructed. This is a hard-fast technical
limitation of sampling in my experience, unless there is something huge I am
missing. It's chords throughout, except for maybe that little 5-note trill
that everyone's sweating at the beginning of the phrase, which no one is
disputing sounds nearly identical, but that doesn't mean it's a sample, for
all the reasons above.

Pedant #85372672904321
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