I'm not sure if you are joking here but I think it is perfectly reasonable to 
grow up in Croydon listening to UK Garage and Hip Hop and then go on to make 
'grime' while at the same time being unaware of Plastikman - get a hold of 
yourselves peeps - we live in a tiny enclosed little world that most people 
will never know or care about - we shouldn't be at all surprised or offended 
that the demigods of 313 techno are off the radar in the big bad world of 
grime, bosh,  bonebreaks and slosh music or whatever the new genre is. It is 
rather arrogant of us to presume that anyone with an interest in music made 
with machines has got to have heard Richie or Derrick, or should even care 
about them.

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Subject: RE: (313) grim is new? (was techno renaissance - this is
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>and i have serious issues with the guy who calls himself "plasticman" as
well, mainly
>for being ignorant of other music that really isnt so hard to know
>about no matter how "insulated" their scene is (ive heard this
>argument before about this guy).

I totally agree with you on that one - how far up your own arse does your
head have to be if you are into electronic/dance music and you haven't
heard the name Richie Hawtin/Plastikman?

Doesn't this guy have any mates who would say-
"Errr, ah - ya know what I think that name's been taken, and anyway, you
look like Vanilla Ice with those lines shaved in the side of your head and
eyebrows"

MEK


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