your point being that musical styles and popularity ebbs and flows?

duh




On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

> my email acct just ate my long reply to this. argh. anyway, i
> conceded your point about kompakt working hard to achieve a new
> audience, but i simply dont think that is the only reason for
> their popularity. we'll remember this thread and 2 years from now
> when kompakt shows dont draw 400 much less 1400 people in nyc ill
> find it in the archives and prove my point ; )
>
> tom
>
>
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> Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:20:30 -0500 (EST)
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> >
> >>
> >> >but how did the hip-hop heads hear it? obviously there's some
> >> sort of
> >> >'trend' leading them to discover this music.
> >>
> >> from hearing me and other deejays playing the records in the
> first
> >> place. the guy who owns the shop is a massive hiphop head and
> >> loves his native tongues era stuff as well as many other kinds
> of
> >> music. hes into some house, but now he buys just about every
> >> mahogani or andres record that comes in. its a matter of the guy
> >> hearing the music without anything attatched to it.
> >
> >and how many nyc 'hipsters' got into the music because they went
> into
> >Othermusic and heard some playing on the in-store system. Or
> heard it from
> >friends. And why are magazines an automatic bad thing. You act as
> though
> >this type of techno is being played on mainstream media. The fact
> is, any
> >person who makes it their business to seek out music that is off
> the
> >mainstream radar deserves our welcome.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >you seem to be very fond of subdividing people. i walk into a
> >> party and
> >> >see a bunch of people who are there to enjoy whatever music is
> >> being
> >> >played at that party. You seem to walk in a break them down
> into
> >> little
> >> >categories to which you obviously attach judgement values to.
> >>
> >> i dont see why its a bad thing to be aware of trends and
> >> advertising. some music gets popular because theres money behind
> >> it. some gets popular because its just that good. most has a
> >> little bit of both mixed in there in varying amounts. kompakt
> has
> >> existed for how long? and just now everyone is getting into it?
> >> the motives seem questionable to me. music writers are always
> >> looking for that "next big thing" to latch onto before everyone
> >> else. it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy when thats what gets
> >> covered so thats what people gravitate towards.
> >
> >for music to gain a foothold, must reach a critical mass. i'd say
> that
> >after several years- kompakt has achieved that critical mass. i
> would also
> >say that their style has evolved away from the glut of minimal
> music in
> >the late 90's into its own sort of sub-style that lots of people
> find
> >appealing. furthermore, in the past year or so, kompakt has made a
> >concerted effort to reach out to the american audience via
> touring and
> >distribution and advertising- the same way any music 'breaks'
> into new
> >audiences.
> >
> >they are a completely independant business that has networked
> through
> >like-minded individuals world wide and have, as a result,
> achieved a more
> >visible profile. that is grassroots at its finest. what more do
> you want?
> >
> >
> >>
> >> all im saying is that in alot of cases people like music for
> many
> >> reasons that ARENT how good the music is. you cant honestly
> argue
> >> that point, but it really seems like you want to.
> >
> >i will argue the point that the way someone enters into a music
> is nowhere
> >near as important as what they do once they get there. and not
> every fan
> >is required to commit whole-heartedly to a lifelong interest in a
> >particular type of music. the only thing i require from someone
> who is
> >interested in the sort of music i am personally engage with is
> that they
> >pay their cover charge (a nessecity for things like venue, sound,
> flights
> >and all the real world stuff), that they enjoy themselves and the
> music
> >once they are present, and that they tell their friends about the
> good
> >time they had the following monday.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> tom
> >>
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