Hardfloor is not a good example...

How about, what could we learn if  dj pierre, spanky, armando, bam bam,
Adonis, chip e, marshal Jefferson were still creating acid tracks

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2004 16:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: (313) 303 and an opinion

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, David Powers wrote:

>
> I like 303 stuff, but I think they sound best when they are NOT
>screaming...  The screaming stuff is annoying, but I still love them
when
>used in a more funky way.  The 303 and similar boxes will always have a
>use just because they are basically generating fairly simple analog
synth
>tones, there is always a place for those simple sounds in one way or
>another.
>

right but that would not be called acid nor would it be associated with
the "new" acid techno revival... I think its the screaming 303s hat is
the
focus of the revival... (shutter)


> On the retro tip, I think there are a lot of tracks coming out now
that
>have a bit of a retro vibe but aren't REALLY retro, it's more like they
>reference specific styles that maybe peaked in the past.  For example,
>I've seen the new Smash TV album classified as retro, but in a way this
>album sounds very now, nobody could have or would have made an album
like
>this in the past.
>

thats simply the fact that the tools of the past were not the tools of
today ;)
but honestly its not stuff like that that I have issues with... artists
will always make work thats influnced by a past period or sound...
what Im talking about here when i refer to retro is litterally djs or
comps that are interested in the music made then and play it or compile
it...
come on how much is there to learn from listening to a hardfloor record
10
years after the fact, if you heard it the first time around?
the last thing we need on this earth is hardfloor to start touring and
putting out records again... well at least thats the last thing I
need...
maybe someone out there can learn some thing from that who knows maybe
someone wants to relive thier german rave days, not I...




> ~David
>
> ---------- Original Message -------------
> Subject: Re: (313) 303 and an opinion
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:51:22 +0100
> From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Neil Wiernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
> there's no problem here neil.
>
> i just expressed an opinion like you did
>
> i could pick away at the use of the word retro but i'll save the
> bandwidth :)
>
>
> robin...
>
> On 23 Jun 2004, at 14:08, Neil Wiernik wrote:
>
> >
> > this 303 nonsence is really silly...
> > all I said was that its NOT for ME
> > if you like it then thats fine good for you...
> > I personally would prefer to see all retro styles stay in the retro
> > bins
> > there is nothing more boring then a full night 12 hours of screaming
> > 303s
> > or 12 hours of any one style ... sure I have zero problem with an
> > artist
> > dropping a 303 track into his or her set as much as I have zero
proble
> > with someone dropping a mami bass styles track into thier set just
not
> > for
> > the whole thing
> > retro gets tired real fast for me...as well as Im sure for others...
> > having seen it happen first hand at parties...
> > soooooooooooo Im gald for you or any one else who likes 303s in fact
I
> > tip
> > my hat to you... but for ME I personally DONT LIKE it, I enjoyed it
the
> > first time around and had enough of it... now I want some thing
else...
> > 303s, 80s syth pop, 80s retro electro all has its place and time but
is
> > just not what I prefer to accupy my personal music educaton with
right
> > now... Iwas there when it happend...I educated my self back then
with
> > it
> > why do I need to reschool my self again on some thing when there is
so
> > much new stuff to learn that has not been explored yet...
> >
>
>
>

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