Makes note to self.  'do not visit montreal'  ever.

If u don't know or respect the other people on the rest of the list then
we'll just end it here...





-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2004 16:55
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: (313) 303 and an opinion


umm hardfloor is the perfect example as your average acid lover theese
days at least here in the city of montreal is all about the hardfloor
sound...
as for your list... maybe dj pierre and marshal jefferson
but honestly I think the only reason they were making acid stuff is that
was the tool of the time if they started making tracks today Im sure
they
would not use a 303, well maybe but I some how dought it...
as for the rest of your list no comment...(ha bam bam...hahahahaha)



On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, placid wrote:

> Hardfloor is not a good example...
>
> How about, what could we learn if  dj pierre, spanky, armando, bam
bam,
> Adonis, chip e, marshal Jefferson were still creating acid tracks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 23 June 2004 16:41
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: (313) 303 and an opinion
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, David Powers wrote:
>
> >
> > I like 303 stuff, but I think they sound best when they are NOT
> >screaming...  The screaming stuff is annoying, but I still love them
> when
> >used in a more funky way.  The 303 and similar boxes will always have
a
> >use just because they are basically generating fairly simple analog
> synth
> >tones, there is always a place for those simple sounds in one way or
> >another.
> >
>
> right but that would not be called acid nor would it be associated
with
> the "new" acid techno revival... I think its the screaming 303s hat is
> the
> focus of the revival... (shutter)
>
>
> > On the retro tip, I think there are a lot of tracks coming out now
> that
> >have a bit of a retro vibe but aren't REALLY retro, it's more like
they
> >reference specific styles that maybe peaked in the past.  For
example,
> >I've seen the new Smash TV album classified as retro, but in a way
this
> >album sounds very now, nobody could have or would have made an album
> like
> >this in the past.
> >
>
> thats simply the fact that the tools of the past were not the tools of
> today ;)
> but honestly its not stuff like that that I have issues with...
artists
> will always make work thats influnced by a past period or sound...
> what Im talking about here when i refer to retro is litterally djs or
> comps that are interested in the music made then and play it or
compile
> it...
> come on how much is there to learn from listening to a hardfloor
record
> 10
> years after the fact, if you heard it the first time around?
> the last thing we need on this earth is hardfloor to start touring and
> putting out records again... well at least thats the last thing I
> need...
> maybe someone out there can learn some thing from that who knows maybe
> someone wants to relive thier german rave days, not I...
>
>
>
>
> > ~David
> >
> > ---------- Original Message -------------
> > Subject: Re: (313) 303 and an opinion
> > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:51:22 +0100
> > From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Neil Wiernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >
> > there's no problem here neil.
> >
> > i just expressed an opinion like you did
> >
> > i could pick away at the use of the word retro but i'll save the
> > bandwidth :)
> >
> >
> > robin...
> >
> > On 23 Jun 2004, at 14:08, Neil Wiernik wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > this 303 nonsence is really silly...
> > > all I said was that its NOT for ME
> > > if you like it then thats fine good for you...
> > > I personally would prefer to see all retro styles stay in the
retro
> > > bins
> > > there is nothing more boring then a full night 12 hours of
screaming
> > > 303s
> > > or 12 hours of any one style ... sure I have zero problem with an
> > > artist
> > > dropping a 303 track into his or her set as much as I have zero
> proble
> > > with someone dropping a mami bass styles track into thier set just
> not
> > > for
> > > the whole thing
> > > retro gets tired real fast for me...as well as Im sure for
others...
> > > having seen it happen first hand at parties...
> > > soooooooooooo Im gald for you or any one else who likes 303s in
fact
> I
> > > tip
> > > my hat to you... but for ME I personally DONT LIKE it, I enjoyed
it
> the
> > > first time around and had enough of it... now I want some thing
> else...
> > > 303s, 80s syth pop, 80s retro electro all has its place and time
but
> is
> > > just not what I prefer to accupy my personal music educaton with
> right
> > > now... Iwas there when it happend...I educated my self back then
> with
> > > it
> > > why do I need to reschool my self again on some thing when there
is
> so
> > > much new stuff to learn that has not been explored yet...
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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