except for the fact that montreal is the coolest city in north america

at least from an infrequent visitor's point of view.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, placid wrote:

> Makes note to self.  'do not visit montreal'  ever.
>
> If u don't know or respect the other people on the rest of the list then
> we'll just end it here...
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 23 June 2004 16:55
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: (313) 303 and an opinion
>
>
> umm hardfloor is the perfect example as your average acid lover theese
> days at least here in the city of montreal is all about the hardfloor
> sound...
> as for your list... maybe dj pierre and marshal jefferson
> but honestly I think the only reason they were making acid stuff is that
> was the tool of the time if they started making tracks today Im sure
> they
> would not use a 303, well maybe but I some how dought it...
> as for the rest of your list no comment...(ha bam bam...hahahahaha)
>
>
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, placid wrote:
>
> > Hardfloor is not a good example...
> >
> > How about, what could we learn if  dj pierre, spanky, armando, bam
> bam,
> > Adonis, chip e, marshal Jefferson were still creating acid tracks
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23 June 2004 16:41
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: (313) 303 and an opinion
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, David Powers wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I like 303 stuff, but I think they sound best when they are NOT
> > >screaming...  The screaming stuff is annoying, but I still love them
> > when
> > >used in a more funky way.  The 303 and similar boxes will always have
> a
> > >use just because they are basically generating fairly simple analog
> > synth
> > >tones, there is always a place for those simple sounds in one way or
> > >another.
> > >
> >
> > right but that would not be called acid nor would it be associated
> with
> > the "new" acid techno revival... I think its the screaming 303s hat is
> > the
> > focus of the revival... (shutter)
> >
> >
> > > On the retro tip, I think there are a lot of tracks coming out now
> > that
> > >have a bit of a retro vibe but aren't REALLY retro, it's more like
> they
> > >reference specific styles that maybe peaked in the past.  For
> example,
> > >I've seen the new Smash TV album classified as retro, but in a way
> this
> > >album sounds very now, nobody could have or would have made an album
> > like
> > >this in the past.
> > >
> >
> > thats simply the fact that the tools of the past were not the tools of
> > today ;)
> > but honestly its not stuff like that that I have issues with...
> artists
> > will always make work thats influnced by a past period or sound...
> > what Im talking about here when i refer to retro is litterally djs or
> > comps that are interested in the music made then and play it or
> compile
> > it...
> > come on how much is there to learn from listening to a hardfloor
> record
> > 10
> > years after the fact, if you heard it the first time around?
> > the last thing we need on this earth is hardfloor to start touring and
> > putting out records again... well at least thats the last thing I
> > need...
> > maybe someone out there can learn some thing from that who knows maybe
> > someone wants to relive thier german rave days, not I...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ~David
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message -------------
> > > Subject: Re: (313) 303 and an opinion
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:51:22 +0100
> > > From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Neil Wiernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > there's no problem here neil.
> > >
> > > i just expressed an opinion like you did
> > >
> > > i could pick away at the use of the word retro but i'll save the
> > > bandwidth :)
> > >
> > >
> > > robin...
> > >
> > > On 23 Jun 2004, at 14:08, Neil Wiernik wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > this 303 nonsence is really silly...
> > > > all I said was that its NOT for ME
> > > > if you like it then thats fine good for you...
> > > > I personally would prefer to see all retro styles stay in the
> retro
> > > > bins
> > > > there is nothing more boring then a full night 12 hours of
> screaming
> > > > 303s
> > > > or 12 hours of any one style ... sure I have zero problem with an
> > > > artist
> > > > dropping a 303 track into his or her set as much as I have zero
> > proble
> > > > with someone dropping a mami bass styles track into thier set just
> > not
> > > > for
> > > > the whole thing
> > > > retro gets tired real fast for me...as well as Im sure for
> others...
> > > > having seen it happen first hand at parties...
> > > > soooooooooooo Im gald for you or any one else who likes 303s in
> fact
> > I
> > > > tip
> > > > my hat to you... but for ME I personally DONT LIKE it, I enjoyed
> it
> > the
> > > > first time around and had enough of it... now I want some thing
> > else...
> > > > 303s, 80s syth pop, 80s retro electro all has its place and time
> but
> > is
> > > > just not what I prefer to accupy my personal music educaton with
> > right
> > > > now... Iwas there when it happend...I educated my self back then
> > with
> > > > it
> > > > why do I need to reschool my self again on some thing when there
> is
> > so
> > > > much new stuff to learn that has not been explored yet...
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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