I have to put in a plug (for Walt Nelson of Guam)

Flow charting of methods  

:)

On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:34:07 -0700, Ed Glassgow wrote:
> There have been efforts at pure graphical programming software.  In 
> fact, there was a database program that was drag and drop in the 
> relatively early Mac days.  I wish that I could remember what it was 
> called, but time has wiped that from my memory banks.  It was very 
> cumbersome to accomplish anything of any complexity.  I don’t think 
> that there is an ideal solution for everyone and have always thought 
> that 4D offered a good blend.
> 
> Ed
> 
> On 11/15/16, 1:29 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Bill Weale" 
> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>     As far as software “developers” are concerned, I may be an 
> extreme example of someone who is bothered by this type of learning. 
> I simply don’t have the patience/attention span/(motivation?) to 
> devote the time and effort to the repetitive (to me, boring to the 
> point of stifling) behaviors required to accomplish rote learning.
>     
>     Specific to 4D and other scripting platforms where an important 
> result is graphical, I’ve thought that I’d be a lot more productive 
> if somehow the programming “language” itself were more, er, 
> graphical. There surely have been improvements in my 25 years, but 
> there’s still way too much text in this world.
>     
>     8-)
>     
>     Bill
>     
>     
>     > On Nov 14, 2016, at 6:26 PM, David Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
>     > 
>     > For those of you that pass parameters, order can matter. It's 
> been, what,
>     > 30 years now I've been using 4D (!)  and I *still* have to 
> double-check
>     > Position and Find in array
>     > 
>     > Position(Needle;Haystack)
>     > Find in array(Haystack;Needle)
>     
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