The subform is not a subtable. I tried creating a new detail form with a new subform, a couple of search variables and a very simple list form attached to the subform.
I’m not seeing the subform redraws to the extent they occur in my problematic forms. e.g. I don’t get a redraw every time I type a character into the entry variable. So, the behavior I’m seeing is not a new default behavior for subforms. These are forms that have existed since at least v6. I guess my next step is to try recreating the form from scratch. Do you have any idea what things in 4d trigger the redraw of the subform? Thanks again. Allen > On Feb 8, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Chip Scheide <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would try replacing with a listbox (just as a test) maybe 4D changed > something with subforms and the way they redraw. > > BTW - is the subform a subtable? > > On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:13:48 -0800, Allen Matlick wrote: >> It's a subform. All relations to related tables are manual. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Chip Scheide >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> the 'subform' is it a subform (an included listing form from another >>> table), a listbox, or a widget (also called a subform)? >>> >>> Are the relations between the parent and child table(s) automatic or >>> manual? >>> if any are automatic - try making them manual. >>> >>>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 10:55:59 -0800, Allen Matlick wrote: >>>> Thanks for your responses. >>>> >>>> The events associated with the various variables and forms are >>>> minimized and the methods associated with the variables and forms are >>>> wrapped with the corresponding ‘if (form event = …) conditionals. >>>> >>>> What I seem to be seeing is that the subform is being redrawn much >>>> more frequently in v15.3 than v13.5. With each redraw I’m seeing >>>> another on display detail event, as I would expect. >>>> >>>> I’m comparing identical forms, with identical settings in v13.5 >>>> and v15.3. >>>> >>>> The form displays payroll transactions for employees. There are some >>>> display variables that are used to trigger searches the appropriate >>>> table and the results are displayed in the subform. The search does >>>> not occur until the “on data change” event fires. >>>> >>>> The main form has only the events on load, on clicked, on activate >>>> and on data change. >>>> The subform has no associated events >>>> The list form associated with the subform has only the on display >>>> detail event. >>>> The display variables have only the on data change event. >>>> >>>> I added another display variable to the main form which to display >>>> the number of times on display detail event occurs. The variable is >>>> a process variable. >>>> In the list form method, inside the "on display detail conditional" I >>>> added code that increments the count variable by one. >>>> >>>> The subform displays 7 records. >>>> >>>> Here’s what I see with v13.5 >>>> >>>> Action Cumulative count >>>> Open form 0 opens within a second >>>> Click into employee name variable 0 >>>> keystroke 1 0 >>>> keystroke 2 0 >>>> keystroke 3 0 >>>> keystroke 4 0 >>>> keystroke 5 0 >>>> tab out of field 7 this initiates a query and updates the >>>> display >>>> click into different search variable 7 >>>> >>>> By comparison with v15.3 >>>> Open form 0 opens in about 8 seconds — much slower >>>> Click into employee name variable 14 >>>> keystroke 1 21 >>>> keystroke 2 28 >>>> keystroke 3 35 >>>> keystroke 4 42 >>>> keystroke 5 49 >>>> tab out of field 56 this initiates a query and updates >>>> the display >>>> click into different search variable 70 >>>> >>>> Can you think of any way to reduce the number of redraws? Any >>>> other ideas? >>>> >>>> Allen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 1:15 AM, Arnaud de Montard <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Le 8 févr. 2017 à 01:44, Kirk Brooks <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Allen, >>>>>> I'll add my voice to Keith's suggestion that you turn off all >>>>>> events on the >>>>>> forms (except On Load) and try working with the form. Turn on the events >>>>>> you actually need. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, that's what I do too. And to avoid missing some (schematically): >>>>> Case of >>>>> :(evt1) >>>>> :(evt2) >>>>> else >>>>> trace //unexpected, check or uncheck but don't let it this way >>>>> end case >>>>> >>>>> Notes: when a form is created, some events are automatically checked >>>>> by 4D even if they are not required (at least by me). The "default" >>>>> tab of the properties palette shows a restricted set of events, >>>>> while the "detailed event" tab shows them all. 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