-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi Gustin :) > > I don't know if it's my broken English or if you are too arrogant to > feel into simple users. > Your meaning is clear. Your English is better than you say it is. You have a knack for finding and using words that would inflame most English speakers. Once or twice can be coincidence, but I am on a number of the same mailing lists as you, and your ability to enrage others is quite impressive. Your understanding of the subtle differences between English and German is also quite sophisticated.
> Simple users have fear to kill, to delete their Windows by installing a > Linux AND this is something that happens all the time. > I see that sentence posted a lot. Some numbers would be nice. My point is that we should be reacting to actual problems, not perceived problems (perceived by us that is). You should track down some of the talks and blog posts by Aaron Seigo, he has some very interesting thoughts on this topic. He is not hard to find on the Internet. > Some people aren't able to install a Linux without damaging their Windows. > This is getting harder to do, but it is becoming a moot point with the variety of alternatives (LiveCD, pendrive, spare computers, Vmware player, etc.) > This is what I mean with killing, even if most people just fear about > this because of rumours and not because this is the truth for most Linux > installs. > For the people I encounter, if destroying the data on one's drive is a concern, I usually advise them to not install Linux on a critical computer. Pushing someone into this scenario is wrong IMO. > Wubi is a step forward to reach those people. So is the win32 installer. So are the variety of other methods of installing Linux. On the other hand, do we need to be pushing people into Linux (or any other OS for that matter) before they are ready? This is something I believe someone should choose to do on their own and not a choice for me/us to make for them. > > You are a Guru for Linux, what's your problem with stupid people? > I am not a guru, but thanks for the compliment. I am not sure what you mean by "stupid people". If you mean people who have no experience with Linux, are not system administrators, but are willing to learn something new and take responsibility for their own actions and experiences, then no, I do not have a problem with them. If on the other hand you are referring to someone who won't take the time or put in the effort to do the research so that he or she can make an informed decision, well then yes I am guilty as charged. > I think that you are able to see the advantages for 'stupid' people by > Wubi, but I guess you won't to have 'stupid' people the comfort of Sure, if someone does not want to do anything for themselves, I am happy to have them choose a different OS. > Linux. Have you listen once a time to the fist question of the Wubi > video link? I can do one better, I have run Wubi. IMO, Wubi does not bring enough of a benefit to outweigh it's drawbacks. Of course my opinion should not be the only one that matters, I might actually be wrong sometimes, just like everyone else. It is also possible that I have been poisoned by the idea that we should identify actual problems, not what we think *might* be a problem. The KDE people had some interesting experiences a few years ago when they were doing some usability studies. Same story with Greg Kroah-Hartman. It turns out that most people get the top problems wrong. It is not difficult to find people parroting myths and misconceptions, please do not add yourself that category. > > This might sound raw, I'm sorry, but I won't belief that you are unable > to understand the difference of Wubi to all other methods to get in > contact with Linux. > I do not believe in "Linux at all costs" approach. There are people and situations that it is simply not appropriate for. I believe this will change in the future, but right now it is neither a good idea nor a feasible one. There is a joke about when will Linux be ready for the Desktop. The truth is that Linux was ready for the Desktop 10 years ago. The question is when will "I" be ready for Linux. There will be an investment in time, I may have to relearn how to use a computer. I may have to think about my relationship with the computer differently. The answers to those questions falls to the individual. Each of us gets to choose to participate or not. Each of us gets to choose > PS: I'm sorry, I can't verify my English right now, because I have to > wait for the right moment to send my email, Alice is sucking since hours. If you are concerned about it, I find putting messages in the "Drafts" (or equivalent) folder to be helpful. There are few things that require an immediate response. My feelings are not hurt, I understand that my perspective may seem harsh and uncaring at times. It is what it is. The point that I was trying to make was there has always been a vocal group that push to make things simpler and easier for "average users". I have never met an average person or user, only a number of interesting individuals. All I wanted is for the OP to make sure they were actually sure about the problem they were trying to solve. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknLGwcACgkQwRXgH3rKGfNEdgCgptBcU7M1o0FwtyvGd97O6E2m XJAAnRhLBNPJKh6iF6g714YqjR4VymVu =mzhF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ 64studio-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users
