Hi Mathias :)

why do so many people reply off-list, when they do have quality issues 
with Linux?
Linux  for audio has a lot of disadvantages and I seems to be the only 
one pointing it out in the lists, while a lot of people do agree off-list.

Please, this is a serious issue that should be discussed on the lists.

Mathias Krause wrote:
> Hi Ralf,
>
>   
>> I guess we've got different trouble.
>>
>> In my case it's not the fault of JAMin. Indeed changing the volume and
>> using a (multi-band) compressor will effect the frequencies depending to
>> the compressor settings.
>>
>> For the first recording the output of JAMin was connected to Qtractor
>> audio in, but the result of the recording sounds different to the sound
>> that directly came from JAMin.
>>
>> The second recording was just audio track output, no JAMin, but directly
>> connected to audio track input. Changing the level by listening all
>> frequencies were fine, but for the recording there was a loss for the
>> frequencies.
>>
>> 1. I used best playback quality for Qtractor.
>> 2. The recorded wave files also sound muddy when I play them by another
>> application.
>>
>> In your case it seems to be your fault ;). If you change the volume for
>> the audio signal that you connect to JAMin's inputs, then at least you
>> need to readjust the ratio.
>>     
>
> I don't think it's different trouble... but let me check it this
> afternoon. What I do is connecting the output of Jamin to qtractor and
> re-record the track. If i listen to the audio signal which comes out of
> jamin, everything sounds ok. I also use qtractor level adjustment to set
> the audio level. When I  listen to the re-recorded track, it sounds a
> little distored ...
>
> but until sending something to the list ... i will try it again. Simple
> way would be to record the output of Jamin with another application, isn't
> it?
>
> Regards,
> gizzmo
>   

What are your playback settings for Qtractor? Take a look at "View > 
Options >" or use Ctrl + F12. Chose the tab "Audio", the sample-rate 
converter type for playback needs to be set to "Sinc (Best Quality)".

I've got this muddy sound also when I connect the output directly to the 
input of Qtractor, without having JAMin launched. Listening to the 
output that should be recorded anything is fine, but for the recording 
there is something missing.

One theory is, that there is a problem because of no dithering, but I've 
got experiences with simply recording and copying digital audio and this 
shouldn't be the cause. I suspect Linux has got some bugs, because even 
recordings at 96/24 done with Linux sounds less good than a consumer DAT 
recording at 48/16. When I said there's noise because of JACK I was 
called a troll, some years later a coder discovered that there was a 
rounding error that indeed produced noise.

Doing a recording within Linux, by *not* using the sound card, there 
shouldn't be any trouble because of the sound quality, excepted of 
dithering issues. Most times this is fine, but often it fails, sometimes 
because of user errors, e.g. bad settings for JACK can cause phase 
trouble. Even if there are *no* messages like xruns, the settings for 
JACK can be bad. OTOH not seldom Linux it fails because there must be a 
lot of bugs for JACK and other applications. I'm absolutely sure.

But when I rerecorded a track, just with a raised volume, *no* JAMin 
etc., I should get what I hear. I can't use another application if I 
need to record an audio track that I need to use with Qtractor, I only 
could use another application for the mastering.

In my case there might be a bug in Qtractor. Please test Qtractor 
without using JAMin too.

Cheers,
Ralf
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