Adding ROLL.

On 6/13/08 7:33 PM, "JP Vasseur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
> 
> 
> On 6/13/08 7:25 PM, "Geoff Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> JP,
>>   As I said previously, when Carsten, Mark and I reviewed the
>> comments/messages on the list it was clear that ND, Architecture, and
>> Security were priority items along with dealing with enhancements to
>> compression of non link local addresses and that there was clear support
>> to take these on within the working group. And now also the Use Cases
>> draft.
>> 
>> I am less certain that there is consensus that fragment recovery is a
>> necessary working group item at this point.  So I will ask the WG.
>> 
>> As to your question about the Arch doc, I'm not sure that I understand
>> the question or the timing?  The text for this hasn't changed for
>> months.  It seems that there are members of the WG that want to see the
>> architectural description that includes both a mesh under solution and a
>> route over.  How would you propose that we determine if there is a need
>> for both?
> 
> My proposal would be to have a discussion on this topic first, trying to
> reach a consensus in the WG on whether or not we need to define a mesh-under
> solution. Once we have reached a consensus, then move on and start to
> incorporate it as part of the architecture ID or another document.
> 
> In term of routing requirement ID, I would suggest:
> * To move ahead with the 6lowpan specific requirement ID, owned by the
> 6lowpan WG and reviewed by ROLL,
> * hold-off on the mesh-under routing requirements until we have reached a
> consensus.
> 
> Makes sense ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> JP.
> 
>> 
>> geoff
>> 
>> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 18:01 +0200, JP Vasseur wrote:
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for sending out the new revision. One question, one comment.
>>> 
>>> Question: could you explain the rationale for leaving out the fragmentation
>>> recovery item?
>>> 
>>> Comment:
>>> 
>>> "3. Produce "6LoWPAN Architecture" to describe the design and
>>> implementation of 6LoWPAN networks.  This document will cover the
>>> concepts of "Mesh Under" and "Route Over", 802.15.4 design issues such
>>> as operation with sleeping nodes, network components (both battery-
>>> and line-powered), addressing, and IPv4/IPv6 network connections.
>>> As a spin-off from that document, "6LoWPAN Routing Requirements" will
>>> describe 6LoWPAN-specific requirements on routing protocols used in
>>> 6LoWPANs, addressing both the "route-over" and "mesh-under" approach.
>>> Both documents will be informational."
>>> 
>>> I do not understand the rationale here: I think that we should first
>>> determine whether we both need a mesh-under *and* a route-over approach. You
>>> know my opinion: we have numerous examples in the past of such approaches
>>> that ALL failed for obvious technical reasons but this is my technical
>>> opinion. As far as 6lowpan is concerned, shouldn't we first have a
>>> discussion to get a consensus there ? *If* it turns out that both are
>>> needed, then add an introductory section in the architecture document
>>> pointing to the requirement document(s).
>>> 
>>> Thus I would rather suggest not to list this as a WG item but to leave it
>>> out for the moment and continue to have the discussion until we have a
>>> consensus. Then at that point we could decide what to do. On the other hand,
>>> having a separate documents listing the 6LoWPAN specific routing
>>> requirements, owned by the 6lowpan WG and reviewed by ROLL would make a lot
>>> of sense.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts ?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> JP.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/13/08 3:59 PM, "Geoff Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> With the input from the authors we've put the "Use Cases" back into the
>>>> text for the charter for the working group with a delivery date of Dec
>>>> 08.
>>>> 
>>>> Attached is the NEW new charter text.
>>>> 
>>>> geoff
>>>> 
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