It would be helpful to know what people's expectations are relative to what this specific draft should include relative to an acceptable timeline of getting a document out. Few comments:

- The WG currently does not have a proposal for TCP header compression, let alone one that we have built some consensus around. - The RPL protocol mechanisms and headers are still in flux. It is difficult to propose a concrete way of compressing them without knowing what they will look like. For example, within ROLL, we will be proposing ways to "pack" lists of addresses such that common prefixes are only carried once within the datagram. - The general 6lowpan-hc format is generic enough to be used on top of other fragmentation mechanisms and/or frame sizes. Do we really want to limit its capabilities to a particular fragmentation and frame size?

There always seems to be a tension between splitting functionality across different drafts vs. delaying the current draft to "sneak" in new functionality. I'm all for sneaking in fixes to RFC 4944 (i.e. simple changes to fragmentation) or additional functionality for expediency if we can realize that expedience. But waiting until we design a TCP header compression mechanism that we can build consensus around probably isn't the best approach, in my opinion, and should be left to a separate draft.

So what do others think?

(I will start a new thread specifically on fragmentation + forward- compatibility so that we drive towards closure on that specific issue).

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Jonathan Hui

On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Robert Cragie wrote:

Hi Geoff,

I concur with Joseph's statements and thus do not support forwarding the draft to IESG yet.

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Reddy, Joseph wrote:


Hi Geoff,

I do not support forwarding this doc to IESG yet. I would like the following issues addressed

** Investigate possible TCP header compression scheme

** Explain strategy for compressing RPL headers ( I understand this could be done in the ROLL group, but I have not seen a definite statement either way )

** Resolve the "forward compatability" issue ( ideally, while maintaining backwards-comptability )


-Regards, Joseph



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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:56:31 -0700
From: Geoff Mulligan <[email protected]>
Subject: [6lowpan] WGLC for 6lowpan HC draft
To: 6lowpan <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <1266047791.3643.48.ca...@dellx1>
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Folks,
I realized that I have made a huge slip-up. The HC draft has languished for the past few months. At the meeting in Hiroshima we said that we would last call this draft, but I failed to send out the actual last call. So...

This note formally starts the WG Last Call for comments on draft- ietf-6lowpan-hc-06, "Compression Format for IPv6 Datagrams in 6LoWPAN Networks".

The document can be found at:
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-06.txt

The document is intended to be submitted by this Working Group to the IESG for publication as a Standards Track document.

Please review the document carefully (one last time), and send your comments to the 6lowpan list. Please also indicate in your response whether or not you think this document is ready to go to the IESG.

Because of my gaffe this Last Call will end Wednesday February 24 2010 at 2359 UTC.

        Thanks,
                Geoff





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