On Thursday 05 July 2007 10:11 am, Roger E. Rustad, Jr. wrote:

> http://www.limitfreehosting.com/

Why don't you try them and find out <smile>?

I'd be happy to write/talk about the finances of hosting at any time; is 
there any interest in such a discussion, or is it too far off-topic?

Chris seems to have found a link to the domain ownership in Holland.  I 
don't know where he found that, but all I found was an enom 
registration with the following information:

Registrant Contact:
   Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
   Whois Agent ([email protected])
   +1.4252740657
   Fax: +1.4256960234
   PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
   C/O limitfreehosting.com
   Bellevue, WA 98007
   US

Here's their traceroute:

$ traceroute 81.21.75.148
traceroute to 81.21.75.148 (81.21.75.148), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1)  0.811 ms  0.746 ms  0.795 ms
 2  67.112.189.222 (67.112.189.222)  11.016 ms  10.928 ms  11.105 ms
 3  dist4-vlan60.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (67.114.50.66)  11.611 ms  11.054 
ms  11.700 ms
 4  bb2-g4-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.43.143)  12.096 ms  12.007 ms  
11.428 ms
 5  151.164.93.167 (151.164.93.167)  13.051 ms  11.689 ms  11.844 ms
 6  asn1299-teliasonera.eqlaca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.248.166)  17.720 
ms  12.564 ms  13.606 ms
 7  nyk-bb2-link.telia.net (213.248.80.10)  75.431 ms  85.390 ms  73.675 
ms
 8  nyk-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.83.21)  74.554 ms 
nyk-bb1-pos7-1-0.telia.net (213.248.80.70)  75.421 ms 
nyk-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.250.18)  74.284 ms
 9  ldn-bb2-pos7-1-0.telia.net (213.248.65.93)  145.120 ms 
ldn-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.249.250)  140.001 ms 
ldn-bb2-pos7-1-0.telia.net (213.248.65.93)  144.864 ms
10  ldn-b2-link.telia.net (80.91.250.226)  143.995 ms  146.111 ms  
144.016 ms
11  pipex-104657-ldn-b2.c.telia.net (213.248.100.94)  143.636 ms  
144.365 ms  145.510 ms
12  g0-1-5.cr03.hx2.bb.pipex.net (62.72.142.3)  142.509 ms  142.115 ms  
144.134ms
13  p3-0.cr02.ld3.bb.pipex.net (62.72.156.222)  147.884 ms  147.236 ms  
149.634ms
14  v258.ar01.ld3.dco.pipex.net (62.105.126.21)  148.384 ms  148.860 ms  
149.995 ms
15  server42.donhost.co.uk (81.21.75.148)  150.514 ms  146.360 ms  
147.382 ms
$

They're probably either a reseller of Donhost: http://www.donhost.co.uk.

My guess is they've got a "Reseller Pro" account, described justly:

<snip>
The Reseller Pro account allows you to host an unlimited number web 
sites, each with it's own FTP and email accounts, utilising an 
unlimited amount of disk space for a flat monthly fee. For each web 
site you set-up, you can choose whether to host it on a UNIX or a 
Windows 2003 web server.
</snip>

<snip>
Unmetered Data Transfer
</snip>

<snip>
just £19.99 for the first 3 months
</snip>

and afterwards:

<snip>
Monthly £79.99
Setup £29.99
</snip>

For what it's worth, today at xe.com:

<snip>
19.99 GBP = 40.2343 USD
29.99 GBP = 60.3701 USD
79.99 GBP = 161.020 USD
</snip>

So even though Donhost is offering something as unlimited, they have, at 
least, slightly higher prices.  And they can probably afford to sell 
this model (see further, below).


And finally, the company contact information for LimitFreeHosting:

<snip>
Server Location
1 Heather Court
Shaw Wood Way
Doncaster
DN2 5YL, United Kingdom 

Mailing Address
5715 Will Clayton #2511
Humble, TX 77338
USA

Support Center
ICT Incubator,
4th Floor-East, BSRS Bhaban,
Kawranbazar, Dhaka, BD.
Phone: +88011-99804448

Website Development Center
23 Ellolot Road, Calcatta
India
</snip>

Note that the only phone number on the site is their support center in 
Bangladesh.

And that the google advertising at the bottom of their homepage is for 
competing hosting companies.

And that they accept payment only through 2CO; 2CO actually works on a 
"reseller" model; you're buying from 2Checkout.com (2CO).

All the payment links on their signup page (including the one for the 
U.S.-based Better Business Bureau) are for 2CO, not for them.

My guess: they're a bunch of kids here in the U.S. who've figured out 
they can make a bundle off of the promises of DonHost in the U.S.

Your guess?

And who are DonHost?  Their whois (in Europe you can't legally get away 
with a "private" registration; anyone who does is breaking the law) 
says they trade as Donhost, which means they've set up a "dba" (as we 
call it here) as Donhost.  Based on the copyright at the bottom of 
their pages, and that they offer DSL reselling as well, I'd guess 
they're actuall Pipex.

Can Pipex do it?  Yes.  Especially at their prices.

Can LimitFreeHosting?  I'd doubt it.

Anyone want a presentation on the economics of the hosting business?

Jeff
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