output of 'pci -v', '/dev/kprint'? also, tip: connect to the internet and then use webpaste, instead of taking photos. It's a *LOT* easier to read text.
Quoth Michael Jensen <[email protected]>: > I have done further tests, confirming that when other ssd's are in the > computer, with other operating systems, they -are- recognized. I also > switched to legacy boot to see if anything changed, but no. > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 11:07 PM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Greetings. > > > > I finally have some more hard-data for you. I finally "re-burned" my > > install media.. cause.. just cause. The installation process clearly does > > not leave it unchanged, so to do a fresh clean test.. gotta start again > > with fresh components. Wasn't actually all that hard. for the record, I > > used the following command, from pen-drive linux: > > https://pendrivelinux.com/create-bootable-usb-from-iso-using-dd/ : > > > > sudo dd if=/path/to/filename.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M status=progress > > > > once in the system.. it will be clear from the picture.. The ssd in my > > computer is not recognized. If you ask me why not, you're asking the wrong > > person. I've tried the test with the ssd I originally tried with, and with > > a brand-new one. (WD, and Kingston [brand-new]) > > > > ..Including another pic or two, in case they have info that might be > > useful.. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 5:26 PM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Absolutely not! I'm not sure of anything.. :-) Also, no, I don't want > >> to install to the usb. The usb is the boot-medium. I want to install to > >> the computer.. the ssd.. Yes. I'm even more of a clueless stranger in an > >> alien world than I thought.. -_- > >> > >> For what it's worth, I will observe that I have now tried installing to > >> another computer. To test out if the motherboard was the problem. ..and I > >> got even less far. this is a thinkpad t430.. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 4:09 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Your photos indicated that you were installing to a USB disk. Are you > >>> sure you're installing to the disk you want to use? > >>> > >>> Quoth Michael Jensen <[email protected]>: > >>> > This is very strange. I have re-started the installation process with > >>> a > >>> > brand-new ssd. And I -still- get that partdisk and prepdisk are > >>> already > >>> > done. That only makes sense if the changes they made got made to the > >>> > motherboard, because this is a new ssd. Or are all these > >>> > changes/selections getting saved to the -installation- medium? > >>> > > >>> > ..ok, this is going nowhere fast.. I'm getting what looks like the > >>> same > >>> > problem as before. ..so.. the ssd -isn't- the issue? ..so.. it must > >>> be > >>> > the motherboard? I mean, maybe I just got the one ssd in the store > >>> that > >>> > isn't any good.. > >>> > > >>> > and no, I again didn't get -all- the output.. I didn't know what to > >>> > expect. I kinda hoped it would just work.. > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 11:17 PM Michael Jensen < > >>> [email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > This is about the best I can do. I have to take the picture at > >>> exactly > >>> > > the right time to get all the output before it vanishes. I took one > >>> last > >>> > > picture. Best I can do to capture the last output before things go > >>> totally > >>> > > hay-wire. > >>> > > > >>> > > from here, I'll repeat the process with a fresh ssd, stop torturing > >>> > > myself. eventually, I'll try installing another os on this one, or > >>> try > >>> > > using it as an external data-storage device.. :-) > >>> > > > >>> > > IMG_20251110_225059.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cfnYQhSZIv5YpIruD4WZ8pRRzaGZ8fQL/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > IMG_20251110_225118.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MU6_vZo2oGq6Uo1ppKgSERlR6B1rGT7O/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > IMG_20251110_225134.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SdGpslzjZnEmxCgW9zz_woGed2Bz2_nC/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > IMG_20251110_225143.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Id7TiNiVcmiWL6_98uXIUTK7wSoKl_qc/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > IMG_20251110_225656.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XM0w4qoLcbjppYsAlWKciY2dQOEx3r1h/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > IMG_20251110_225704.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vuJymLqmDnIXqc6RFTlt3gW-kFYKpbQO/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > IMG_20251110_225717.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KdePP1bQLLlPLJpST3SgdnIbmFeKogmg/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > IMG_20251110_230449.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qHNeuYmOtnJqx407ImasM2Bq4kUaAEBn/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > IMG_20251110_230839.jpg > >>> > > < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CZsrdG3EEX6cd3rWDp3OAsUp4Itc27py/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > > > >>> > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 8:57 PM Michael Jensen < > >>> [email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > >> I have a better understanding now of what is happening. It seems > >>> that it > >>> > >> now prompts me for what I want to do vis-a-vis configfs, and then > >>> jumps > >>> > >> over partdisk and prepdisk. It is now telling me that they are > >>> done, even > >>> > >> though I totally absolutely didn't do them. at least, not this time > >>> > >> around. so.. the only thing that makes sense is that it is > >>> detecting what > >>> > >> I told it to do the last time I tried to install, and is assuming > >>> > >> (correctly, as it happens) that I still want it to do that same > >>> thing. > >>> > >> however, what if I had realized I wanted to change something? > >>> seems like a > >>> > >> dangerous policy. There must be a way of getting at these settings > >>> again, > >>> > >> for when people want to change them later. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ok, here are 4 more pictures. when it gets to reeming.. all hell > >>> breaks > >>> > >> loose. to capture all the output, I would have to re-launch the > >>> process.. > >>> > >> I'll do that, and send it along a little later.. ..I mean, maybe > >>> it's > >>> > >> doing it's thing perfectly, and I just don't have the experience to > >>> > >> recognize it.. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 3:41 PM Michael Jensen < > >>> > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> The situation is overall very strange. ..or maybe not strange at > >>> all.. > >>> > >>> no errors seem to be reproducible. At the moment, I'm carefully > >>> > >>> documenting my progress through the install and.. it actually > >>> seems to be > >>> > >>> working, except that I took the default (no) at the reaming > >>> option, then > >>> > >>> saw that the instructions say to choose yes. so now I'll have to > >>> restart. > >>> > >>> sending along the pictures of progress to date so you have them.. > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143536.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jOll5mmHPHOyhxxhpK5QSr5aEWVRIkCH/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143602.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BKwmoQUOL_IGdtHJ62R8T1sbkTNeMVXv/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143615.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TkA2VmnX8J3xAgm9m3tJicHtaGjuKXvs/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143906.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K1rzSXbiL4Swo5qYhlHdH6smuz9nxITp/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143925.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/141g9gJTJxmND0r2hkyhakuXTMmt5EsBJ/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145205.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_qZoKdERNrqEBle4YWL9fwkgXksPt7ls/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145347.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LxWEsu0D7LVotQJZQ0zhVuUtvmGuIAD4/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145413.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14pBaY90JGv-5qb68e5pkr7CZbmSEZ5hz/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145441.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tFCQ81jA6N54nTapOAl7Y4s5un7bukbg/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145517.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PhT88ukkGGcYch3GzU0Y0nvdg_MAjZks/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145622.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L-38KtzgLLR58btFH62i1GfVLjbPQlYK/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145751.jpg > >>> > >>> < > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/16Bz147QHq_CEIO-9YFKsrr23u27YVUH8/view?usp=drive_web > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 2:30 PM Michael Jensen < > >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> I've managed to get it working again! it occurred to me that I > >>> -might- > >>> > >>>> be able to get a complete reset by holding down the main power > >>> button for > >>> > >>>> 30 seconds or so, I've forgotten whether this should be while the > >>> machine > >>> > >>>> is plugged in or not, so I tried both. ..it worked! > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> As for seeing the full output.. the only way I can think of to do > >>> this > >>> > >>>> would be to take multiple pictures of it.. > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> I have now done this. however, much to my surprise, the install > >>> method > >>> > >>>> did -not- seem to be the same this time around. As for what the > >>> cause of > >>> > >>>> this could be.. I have no idea. Right now, I have absolutely no > >>> confidence > >>> > >>>> that it is doing what it is supposed to. I'll send the pics I > >>> have, not > >>> > >>>> expecting them to be much help. I did not succeed in getting all > >>> the > >>> > >>>> output because it started printing things to the screen faster > >>> than I could > >>> > >>>> capture them, and I lost control of which part of the screen got > >>> > >>>> displayed. I further expect I will have to do a hard-reboot to > >>> regain > >>> > >>>> control of the system.. it's a weird feeling.. less than a year > >>> ago openbsd > >>> > >>>> felt like an alien planet.. > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 11:35 PM Ori Bernstein <[email protected] > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>>> I haven't seen this before. It would be useful to see the full > >>> output, > >>> > >>>>> including the suggestions. > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 21:39:29 -0500, Michael Jensen < > >>> > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > Greetings again all. > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > I have now attempted to install 9front. On my dell latitude > >>> e7450. > >>> > >>>>> I > >>> > >>>>> > followed the instructions at fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html. > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > I encountered the following problems: > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > I get as far a section 4.3.8 - prepdisk. I follow the > >>> > >>>>> recommendation of > >>> > >>>>> > accepting the suggestion, and type w, then hit <enter> > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > Normally, it should accept that, and I follow it up with q. > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > Instead, I get: > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > " > >>> > >>>>> > error writing partition table to disk > >>> > >>>>> > attempting to restore partitions to previous state > >>> > >>>>> > cannot restore: error seeking on disk > >>> > >>>>> > " > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > It then sends me up a menu, and I get to re-specify a bunch of > >>> > >>>>> things. > >>> > >>>>> > It gets back to approximately the same place, except this time, > >>> > >>>>> instead of > >>> > >>>>> > suggesting a layout, I get: > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > "disk/prep: cannot open disk: file too small to be a disk" > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > Continuing, I keep getting that error, even if I tell it to > >>> use esp > >>> > >>>>> as my > >>> > >>>>> > 9fat partition. > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > I have consulted one youtube tutorial where they use the gefs > >>> as the > >>> > >>>>> file > >>> > >>>>> > system instead of the default in the tutorial. if that works, > >>> great. > >>> > >>>>> > Thought I should report this though. > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > Cheers! > >>> > >>>>> > Mike :-) > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 6:03 PM Michael Jensen < > >>> > >>>>> [email protected]> > >>> > >>>>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > > Greetings :-) > >>> > >>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>> > > ..I am currently in a deep exploration of operating systems. > >>> > >>>>> > > windows->ubuntu->guix&openbsd, with many more tried > >>> en-route. now > >>> > >>>>> I'm > >>> > >>>>> > > hearing about plan9 and oberon. So, plan9 is the bees-knees? > >>> > >>>>> People > >>> > >>>>> > > daydream wistfully about a world where it dominates.. So.. > >>> shall > >>> > >>>>> we get on > >>> > >>>>> > > with it? :-) Unfortunately, I go to the wiki for > >>> instructions on > >>> > >>>>> > > installing it ( > >>> > >>>>> > > > >>> https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Installation_instructions/index.html), > >>> > >>>>> and > >>> > >>>>> > > find: "Beware: in the manner of wikis most everywhere, this > >>> one is > >>> > >>>>> > > woefully out of date. > >>> > >>>>> > > < > >>> https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Beware:_in_the_manner_of_wikis_most_everywhere,_this_one_is_woefully_out_of_date > >>> > >>>>> .>" > >>> > >>>>> > > ..this is not encouraging. In fact, it stops me in my > >>> tracks and > >>> > >>>>> causes me > >>> > >>>>> > > to write this e-mail instead. > >>> > >>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>> > > ..I currently have three computers. Dell Latitudes e7450 and > >>> > >>>>> e7440, and a > >>> > >>>>> > > Thinkpad T430. I am open to buying another one if there is a > >>> > >>>>> particular > >>> > >>>>> > > one that is recommended for plan9. I can get another > >>> > >>>>> > > more-or-less-realiable T430 for ~150 can. ..I might poke > >>> around > >>> > >>>>> trying to > >>> > >>>>> > > follow the given instructions.. but my instinct says that I > >>> won't, > >>> > >>>>> not > >>> > >>>>> > > without more assurance of support. > >>> > >>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>> > > ..You may be wondering how I heard about plan9 in the first > >>> > >>>>> place. Keep > >>> > >>>>> > > in mind, hearing about it and becoming convinced it's worth > >>> > >>>>> investigating, > >>> > >>>>> > > are two different things. I credit, in historical order, > >>> "The Art > >>> > >>>>> of Unix > >>> > >>>>> > > Programming", Suckless, and vis (the editor). vis are the > >>> people > >>> > >>>>> whose > >>> > >>>>> > > documentation prodded me into seriously checking it out. > >>> (..Of > >>> > >>>>> course, now > >>> > >>>>> > > that I search specifically for plan9, I get plenty of hits..) > >>> > >>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>> > > Cheers, > >>> > >>>>> > > Michael :-) > >>> > >>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > ------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>>>> > 9fans: 9fans > >>> > >>>>> > Permalink: > >>> https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf075600980be0e2b-M6b5b6515f00f915c523814ee > >>> > >>>>> > Delivery options: > >>> > >>>>> https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> -- > >>> > >>>>> Ori Bernstein > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T63e7a33c3d81852a-Mb6e81e472d87157577a47cf4 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
