I have done further tests, confirming that when other ssd's are in the computer, with other operating systems, they -are- recognized. I also switched to legacy boot to see if anything changed, but no.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 11:07 PM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings. > > I finally have some more hard-data for you. I finally "re-burned" my > install media.. cause.. just cause. The installation process clearly does > not leave it unchanged, so to do a fresh clean test.. gotta start again > with fresh components. Wasn't actually all that hard. for the record, I > used the following command, from pen-drive linux: > https://pendrivelinux.com/create-bootable-usb-from-iso-using-dd/ : > > sudo dd if=/path/to/filename.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M status=progress > > once in the system.. it will be clear from the picture.. The ssd in my > computer is not recognized. If you ask me why not, you're asking the wrong > person. I've tried the test with the ssd I originally tried with, and with > a brand-new one. (WD, and Kingston [brand-new]) > > ..Including another pic or two, in case they have info that might be > useful.. > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 5:26 PM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Absolutely not! I'm not sure of anything.. :-) Also, no, I don't want >> to install to the usb. The usb is the boot-medium. I want to install to >> the computer.. the ssd.. Yes. I'm even more of a clueless stranger in an >> alien world than I thought.. -_- >> >> For what it's worth, I will observe that I have now tried installing to >> another computer. To test out if the motherboard was the problem. ..and I >> got even less far. this is a thinkpad t430.. >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 4:09 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Your photos indicated that you were installing to a USB disk. Are you >>> sure you're installing to the disk you want to use? >>> >>> Quoth Michael Jensen <[email protected]>: >>> > This is very strange. I have re-started the installation process with >>> a >>> > brand-new ssd. And I -still- get that partdisk and prepdisk are >>> already >>> > done. That only makes sense if the changes they made got made to the >>> > motherboard, because this is a new ssd. Or are all these >>> > changes/selections getting saved to the -installation- medium? >>> > >>> > ..ok, this is going nowhere fast.. I'm getting what looks like the >>> same >>> > problem as before. ..so.. the ssd -isn't- the issue? ..so.. it must >>> be >>> > the motherboard? I mean, maybe I just got the one ssd in the store >>> that >>> > isn't any good.. >>> > >>> > and no, I again didn't get -all- the output.. I didn't know what to >>> > expect. I kinda hoped it would just work.. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 11:17 PM Michael Jensen < >>> [email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > This is about the best I can do. I have to take the picture at >>> exactly >>> > > the right time to get all the output before it vanishes. I took one >>> last >>> > > picture. Best I can do to capture the last output before things go >>> totally >>> > > hay-wire. >>> > > >>> > > from here, I'll repeat the process with a fresh ssd, stop torturing >>> > > myself. eventually, I'll try installing another os on this one, or >>> try >>> > > using it as an external data-storage device.. :-) >>> > > >>> > > IMG_20251110_225059.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cfnYQhSZIv5YpIruD4WZ8pRRzaGZ8fQL/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > IMG_20251110_225118.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MU6_vZo2oGq6Uo1ppKgSERlR6B1rGT7O/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > IMG_20251110_225134.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SdGpslzjZnEmxCgW9zz_woGed2Bz2_nC/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > IMG_20251110_225143.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Id7TiNiVcmiWL6_98uXIUTK7wSoKl_qc/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > IMG_20251110_225656.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XM0w4qoLcbjppYsAlWKciY2dQOEx3r1h/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > IMG_20251110_225704.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vuJymLqmDnIXqc6RFTlt3gW-kFYKpbQO/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > IMG_20251110_225717.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KdePP1bQLLlPLJpST3SgdnIbmFeKogmg/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > IMG_20251110_230449.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qHNeuYmOtnJqx407ImasM2Bq4kUaAEBn/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > IMG_20251110_230839.jpg >>> > > < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CZsrdG3EEX6cd3rWDp3OAsUp4Itc27py/view?usp=drive_web >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 8:57 PM Michael Jensen < >>> [email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> I have a better understanding now of what is happening. It seems >>> that it >>> > >> now prompts me for what I want to do vis-a-vis configfs, and then >>> jumps >>> > >> over partdisk and prepdisk. It is now telling me that they are >>> done, even >>> > >> though I totally absolutely didn't do them. at least, not this time >>> > >> around. so.. the only thing that makes sense is that it is >>> detecting what >>> > >> I told it to do the last time I tried to install, and is assuming >>> > >> (correctly, as it happens) that I still want it to do that same >>> thing. >>> > >> however, what if I had realized I wanted to change something? >>> seems like a >>> > >> dangerous policy. There must be a way of getting at these settings >>> again, >>> > >> for when people want to change them later. >>> > >> >>> > >> Ok, here are 4 more pictures. when it gets to reeming.. all hell >>> breaks >>> > >> loose. to capture all the output, I would have to re-launch the >>> process.. >>> > >> I'll do that, and send it along a little later.. ..I mean, maybe >>> it's >>> > >> doing it's thing perfectly, and I just don't have the experience to >>> > >> recognize it.. >>> > >> >>> > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 3:41 PM Michael Jensen < >>> > >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> The situation is overall very strange. ..or maybe not strange at >>> all.. >>> > >>> no errors seem to be reproducible. At the moment, I'm carefully >>> > >>> documenting my progress through the install and.. it actually >>> seems to be >>> > >>> working, except that I took the default (no) at the reaming >>> option, then >>> > >>> saw that the instructions say to choose yes. so now I'll have to >>> restart. >>> > >>> sending along the pictures of progress to date so you have them.. >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143536.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jOll5mmHPHOyhxxhpK5QSr5aEWVRIkCH/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143602.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BKwmoQUOL_IGdtHJ62R8T1sbkTNeMVXv/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143615.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TkA2VmnX8J3xAgm9m3tJicHtaGjuKXvs/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143906.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K1rzSXbiL4Swo5qYhlHdH6smuz9nxITp/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_143925.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/141g9gJTJxmND0r2hkyhakuXTMmt5EsBJ/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145205.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_qZoKdERNrqEBle4YWL9fwkgXksPt7ls/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145347.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LxWEsu0D7LVotQJZQ0zhVuUtvmGuIAD4/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145413.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14pBaY90JGv-5qb68e5pkr7CZbmSEZ5hz/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145441.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tFCQ81jA6N54nTapOAl7Y4s5un7bukbg/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145517.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PhT88ukkGGcYch3GzU0Y0nvdg_MAjZks/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145622.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L-38KtzgLLR58btFH62i1GfVLjbPQlYK/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> IMG_20251110_145751.jpg >>> > >>> < >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/16Bz147QHq_CEIO-9YFKsrr23u27YVUH8/view?usp=drive_web >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 2:30 PM Michael Jensen < >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>>> I've managed to get it working again! it occurred to me that I >>> -might- >>> > >>>> be able to get a complete reset by holding down the main power >>> button for >>> > >>>> 30 seconds or so, I've forgotten whether this should be while the >>> machine >>> > >>>> is plugged in or not, so I tried both. ..it worked! >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> As for seeing the full output.. the only way I can think of to do >>> this >>> > >>>> would be to take multiple pictures of it.. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> I have now done this. however, much to my surprise, the install >>> method >>> > >>>> did -not- seem to be the same this time around. As for what the >>> cause of >>> > >>>> this could be.. I have no idea. Right now, I have absolutely no >>> confidence >>> > >>>> that it is doing what it is supposed to. I'll send the pics I >>> have, not >>> > >>>> expecting them to be much help. I did not succeed in getting all >>> the >>> > >>>> output because it started printing things to the screen faster >>> than I could >>> > >>>> capture them, and I lost control of which part of the screen got >>> > >>>> displayed. I further expect I will have to do a hard-reboot to >>> regain >>> > >>>> control of the system.. it's a weird feeling.. less than a year >>> ago openbsd >>> > >>>> felt like an alien planet.. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 11:35 PM Ori Bernstein <[email protected] >>> > >>>> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>>> I haven't seen this before. It would be useful to see the full >>> output, >>> > >>>>> including the suggestions. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 21:39:29 -0500, Michael Jensen < >>> > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> > Greetings again all. >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > I have now attempted to install 9front. On my dell latitude >>> e7450. >>> > >>>>> I >>> > >>>>> > followed the instructions at fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html. >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > I encountered the following problems: >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > I get as far a section 4.3.8 - prepdisk. I follow the >>> > >>>>> recommendation of >>> > >>>>> > accepting the suggestion, and type w, then hit <enter> >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > Normally, it should accept that, and I follow it up with q. >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > Instead, I get: >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > " >>> > >>>>> > error writing partition table to disk >>> > >>>>> > attempting to restore partitions to previous state >>> > >>>>> > cannot restore: error seeking on disk >>> > >>>>> > " >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > It then sends me up a menu, and I get to re-specify a bunch of >>> > >>>>> things. >>> > >>>>> > It gets back to approximately the same place, except this time, >>> > >>>>> instead of >>> > >>>>> > suggesting a layout, I get: >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > "disk/prep: cannot open disk: file too small to be a disk" >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > Continuing, I keep getting that error, even if I tell it to >>> use esp >>> > >>>>> as my >>> > >>>>> > 9fat partition. >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > I have consulted one youtube tutorial where they use the gefs >>> as the >>> > >>>>> file >>> > >>>>> > system instead of the default in the tutorial. if that works, >>> great. >>> > >>>>> > Thought I should report this though. >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > Cheers! >>> > >>>>> > Mike :-) >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 6:03 PM Michael Jensen < >>> > >>>>> [email protected]> >>> > >>>>> > wrote: >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > > Greetings :-) >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > > ..I am currently in a deep exploration of operating systems. >>> > >>>>> > > windows->ubuntu->guix&openbsd, with many more tried >>> en-route. now >>> > >>>>> I'm >>> > >>>>> > > hearing about plan9 and oberon. So, plan9 is the bees-knees? >>> > >>>>> People >>> > >>>>> > > daydream wistfully about a world where it dominates.. So.. >>> shall >>> > >>>>> we get on >>> > >>>>> > > with it? :-) Unfortunately, I go to the wiki for >>> instructions on >>> > >>>>> > > installing it ( >>> > >>>>> > > >>> https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Installation_instructions/index.html), >>> > >>>>> and >>> > >>>>> > > find: "Beware: in the manner of wikis most everywhere, this >>> one is >>> > >>>>> > > woefully out of date. >>> > >>>>> > > < >>> https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Beware:_in_the_manner_of_wikis_most_everywhere,_this_one_is_woefully_out_of_date >>> > >>>>> .>" >>> > >>>>> > > ..this is not encouraging. In fact, it stops me in my >>> tracks and >>> > >>>>> causes me >>> > >>>>> > > to write this e-mail instead. >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > > ..I currently have three computers. Dell Latitudes e7450 and >>> > >>>>> e7440, and a >>> > >>>>> > > Thinkpad T430. I am open to buying another one if there is a >>> > >>>>> particular >>> > >>>>> > > one that is recommended for plan9. I can get another >>> > >>>>> > > more-or-less-realiable T430 for ~150 can. ..I might poke >>> around >>> > >>>>> trying to >>> > >>>>> > > follow the given instructions.. but my instinct says that I >>> won't, >>> > >>>>> not >>> > >>>>> > > without more assurance of support. >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > > ..You may be wondering how I heard about plan9 in the first >>> > >>>>> place. Keep >>> > >>>>> > > in mind, hearing about it and becoming convinced it's worth >>> > >>>>> investigating, >>> > >>>>> > > are two different things. I credit, in historical order, >>> "The Art >>> > >>>>> of Unix >>> > >>>>> > > Programming", Suckless, and vis (the editor). vis are the >>> people >>> > >>>>> whose >>> > >>>>> > > documentation prodded me into seriously checking it out. >>> (..Of >>> > >>>>> course, now >>> > >>>>> > > that I search specifically for plan9, I get plenty of hits..) >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > > Cheers, >>> > >>>>> > > Michael :-) >>> > >>>>> > > >>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> > ------------------------------------------ >>> > >>>>> > 9fans: 9fans >>> > >>>>> > Permalink: >>> https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf075600980be0e2b-M6b5b6515f00f915c523814ee >>> > >>>>> > Delivery options: >>> > >>>>> https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> -- >>> > >>>>> Ori Bernstein >>> > >>>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T63e7a33c3d81852a-Mba3ab45185f1f0ad1ae865ce Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
