Michael, when you report errors, you pretty much have to assume that anyone reading your mail has no time to go back and read earlier messages and reconstruct your state. The old saying: "if people don't understand you, that's your fault" applies here. Many of us are dealing with bug reports, on multiple projects, and it's very hard to remember the details of all earlier messages. I have a hard enough time remembering what I did yesterday. I have to keep a google doc with various projects just to keep track.
It's not a big deal for you to add one line: on my t420, my dell 3 button fails in the following manner: blah blah. Or my Dell whatever with a sandisk cruzer whatever won't boot 9front Anything. You're not giving enough, at least for me, to remember what's going on. My memory is bad that way. That gives us something to work with. And it's one line. Assume each message you send is being seen for the first time ever: what do people need to know? On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 9:16 AM ron minnich <[email protected]> wrote: > Michael, I am still a bit lost on your status. What 3 button mouse does > not work? What model? What happens? "does not work" -- on what hardware > does it not work? > > You keep reporting problems that nobody else has seen. Have you tried at > least running in a VM so you can be sure you're not making some error? > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:19 AM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The Computer on which the 3-button mouse doesn't work is the same one I >> already submitted data for. >> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 9:07 AM Michael Jensen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So, I have got to the point where, in principle, I am willing to learn >>> how to use plan9/9front using a live session. I have tried installing it >>> to a usb-key and got an error that is probably solvable. I also have >>> another "ssd" coming in in a week or so that might work. The main issue is >>> that the 3-button mouse I got does not work. I've known this for a while, >>> at first it didn't bug me overly. Now, facing the plunge, I'm not so sure >>> I want to deal with the irritation of hardware that isn't designed for the >>> os in question. So.. are adopters of this system really supposed to be up >>> to the level of solving such problems on their own? I'm willing, and >>> indeed enthusiastic, about writing most of my own code, using public code >>> as inspiration, but solving mouse-driver issues? I'm already taking >>> criticism for pushing as far as openbsd. >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2025 at 2:13 PM Michael Jensen < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have now tried installing 9legacy. To see if it would work any >>>> better. On the 3 computers I have that are currently working. You might >>>> be happy to know that it worked less well. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 7:04 PM Michael Jensen < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For the record, I have not yet succeeded, but am still trying, in a >>>>> manner of speaking. Investigating running it in qemu, or using plan9port. >>>>> A tech friend of mine will probably help eventually, if he doesn't >>>>> succeed, >>>>> he will probably generate info that might help with the diagnosis. >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, I am looking into framework laptops, and have now found >>>>> something called the reform. Somebody claims that is what most 9front >>>>> people use? >>>>> >>>>> https://community.frame.work/t/plan9-9front-on-framework/13991/2 >>>>> >>>>> Is there one, framework or reform that is more recommended? >>>>> Strongly? Weekly? For 9front? 9legacy? I ask, not knowing how often the >>>>> FQA is updated. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 8:35 PM Michael Jensen < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ..what? I do not understand. In all the tests I just did, for each >>>>>> computer (I did not test the T420), I did at least one test where the >>>>>> ordinary Sata drive was not there, so the only "memory" that could be >>>>>> seen >>>>>> was either the mSata, the boot medium, or ram. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, this is very strange.. I am trying again on the T430, which >>>>>> happens to have both the mSata and it's ordinary Sata, (coincidence), >>>>>> both >>>>>> register, but it looks like I now have -two- /data options. >>>>>> /dev/sdE0/data >>>>>> and /dev/sdE2/data. As for your suggestion, I have tried accepting the >>>>>> default, which is [], or nothing, and.. same thing. Infinite loop. >>>>>> >>>>>> ..repeating the test, with the Sata out, I get the same thing, >>>>>> (infinite loop), except that there is now only one /dev/sdE1/data, with a >>>>>> 1, not 2 or 0. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:24 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Quoth Michael Jensen <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> > > Well, I've now done about all I can at this end. As I suddenly >>>>>>> suspected >>>>>>> > > right before the test, connecting an msata drive to the computer >>>>>>> via an >>>>>>> > > msata-sata adaptor didn't work. It still looks like a sata. I >>>>>>> assume. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > I how have the msata in the T430, and it is at least >>>>>>> recognized. Which >>>>>>> > > shows that at least -something- is working. However, selecting >>>>>>> the boot >>>>>>> > > drive still fails, same as before, asking again and again, an >>>>>>> infinite >>>>>>> > > loop. 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