Well, I've now done about all I can at this end. As I suddenly suspected right before the test, connecting an msata drive to the computer via an msata-sata adaptor didn't work. It still looks like a sata. I assume.
I how have the msata in the T430, and it is at least recognized. Which shows that at least -something- is working. However, selecting the boot drive still fails, same as before, asking again and again, an infinite loop. In theory I could do the same test with the T420, but.. why would the results be different? I can still try the test with this computer, the 7440. On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 1:29 PM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> wrote: > Here is the page with the claim that the 7440 works the same way as the > thinkpads: > https://superuser.com/questions/743040/will-a-sata-ssd-drive-work-in-wwan-minipcie-slot. > (about half-way down the page) > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 1:26 PM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> For the record, I have now done more research into your reference to a >> "SATA Controller". I think I mainly did this out of curiosity. It being >> obviously very relevant and important. It turns out, obviously?, that this >> controller isn't actually a part of the "computer" at all. It is a part of >> the "storage". That means that if I can just find a storage medium that >> contains the right hardware, I should be good to go. As an aside, I will >> observe that I have now found this page: >> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/thinkpad/wwan_ssd.html, with >> details about hardware support. So for my thinkpads, the solution may be >> as simple as purchasing the right kind of storage. I have now tracked down >> suppliers for it, and so will presumably have some soon. >> >> As for the 7450 (apparently for the 7440, the same method can be used as >> for the thinkpads), it actually originally came with mSATA, and I still >> have all the relevant parts. So for it as well, all I need is to purchase >> fresh mSATA storage. (The old storage died rather catastrophically, one of >> life's learning experiences). >> >> Obviously getting the system to work with "ordinary" SATA will be very >> beneficial for many people, including me, and will hence further encourage >> adoption of the system. I think. Others will be far more knowledgeable >> than me. At least with my thinkpads, it will allow the use of a second >> ssd, or allow the wwan slot to be used for it's original purpose. Correct >> me if I'm wrong. .. :-) >> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 9:19 PM Michael Jensen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Some further information. >>> >>> I decided to collect the same information for my other computers, seeing >>> as, hypothetically, if I end up loving 9front, I'll want to switch all my >>> computers over. (..once enough software has been written/ported for that >>> to be feasible, if it ever is..) >>> I have already documented what happens with the 7450, and my thinkpad >>> T430. There wasn't much to document for the 430. >>> >>> I also have a Dell Latitude e7440. I just tested it, and it looks like >>> it gives results similar to the T430: >>> >>> ..a bunch of output.. >>> >>> /dev/sdM0: MMC Host Controller >>> /dev/sdM1: MMC Host Controller >>> /dev/sdM2: MMC Host Controller >>> bootargs is (tcp, tls, il, local!device)[] >>> >>> ..which I suspect indicates that this hardware is not supported, or >>> something else is wrong. there absolutely may be critical info in the "a >>> bunch of output". unfortunately, my phone (which contains my camera) is >>> broken, so if more info is needed, we either have to wait, or I have to >>> type it in. >>> >>> ..and I have now done the same test with the T420, which I have been >>> using as one of my two daily drivers. With it, I am able to select what I >>> think is the boot drive.. but when I do, it just asks me again.. and >>> again.. and again.. looks like an infinite loop to me.. >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 4:35 PM Michael Jensen < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> wow.. well, thanks! Yes, that will be greatly appreciated! >>>> >>>> I have already tried a separate computer, I encountered another kind of >>>> problem, that I also documented. I can certainly try it again, but even if >>>> I do, the controller for the current machine will still be absolutely >>>> appreciated! >>>> >>>> Michael :-) >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 11:18 AM Ori Bernstein <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 09:20:05 -0500, Michael Jensen < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Thank you enormously for your help. >>>>> > >>>>> > term% ip/ipconfig >>>>> > term% sysinfo -p >>>>> > >>>>> > this gives: >>>>> > >>>>> > 1) near the bottom of the s creen where there is no window: >>>>> > >>>>> > #l1: file does not exist: 'lib/firmware/iwm-7265-17' >>>>> > >>>>> > 2) timewise after that, directly below the term% sysinfo -p, >>>>> > >>>>> > http://sysinfo.9front.org/src/646/body >>>>> > >>>>> > ..now.. that might already have auto-submitted a bunch of >>>>> information to >>>>> > your servers.. if that is the case.. well.. you are the masters.. >>>>> ;-) >>>>> > ..hats off to you.. :-) >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> Alright -- so, it looks like there's no support for your SATA >>>>> controller right now, though I think it'll be really easy to >>>>> add. I'll give it a shot later this week, and put together an >>>>> iso you can test with. >>>>> >>>>> Alternatively, try a separate computer. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ori Bernstein >>>>> ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6c44b64df5590184-M424af0402c09a8c26b9ec601 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
