I have now tried all my computers. (No success) On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 5:29 PM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, I've now done about all I can at this end. As I suddenly suspected > right before the test, connecting an msata drive to the computer via an > msata-sata adaptor didn't work. It still looks like a sata. I assume. > > I how have the msata in the T430, and it is at least recognized. Which > shows that at least -something- is working. However, selecting the boot > drive still fails, same as before, asking again and again, an infinite > loop. In theory I could do the same test with the T420, but.. why would > the results be different? > > I can still try the test with this computer, the 7440. > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 1:29 PM Michael Jensen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Here is the page with the claim that the 7440 works the same way as the >> thinkpads: >> https://superuser.com/questions/743040/will-a-sata-ssd-drive-work-in-wwan-minipcie-slot. >> (about half-way down the page) >> >> On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 1:26 PM Michael Jensen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> For the record, I have now done more research into your reference to a >>> "SATA Controller". I think I mainly did this out of curiosity. It being >>> obviously very relevant and important. It turns out, obviously?, that this >>> controller isn't actually a part of the "computer" at all. It is a part of >>> the "storage". That means that if I can just find a storage medium that >>> contains the right hardware, I should be good to go. As an aside, I will >>> observe that I have now found this page: >>> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/thinkpad/wwan_ssd.html, with >>> details about hardware support. So for my thinkpads, the solution may be >>> as simple as purchasing the right kind of storage. I have now tracked down >>> suppliers for it, and so will presumably have some soon. >>> >>> As for the 7450 (apparently for the 7440, the same method can be used as >>> for the thinkpads), it actually originally came with mSATA, and I still >>> have all the relevant parts. So for it as well, all I need is to purchase >>> fresh mSATA storage. (The old storage died rather catastrophically, one of >>> life's learning experiences). >>> >>> Obviously getting the system to work with "ordinary" SATA will be very >>> beneficial for many people, including me, and will hence further encourage >>> adoption of the system. I think. Others will be far more knowledgeable >>> than me. At least with my thinkpads, it will allow the use of a second >>> ssd, or allow the wwan slot to be used for it's original purpose. Correct >>> me if I'm wrong. .. :-) >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 9:19 PM Michael Jensen < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Some further information. >>>> >>>> I decided to collect the same information for my other computers, >>>> seeing as, hypothetically, if I end up loving 9front, I'll want to switch >>>> all my computers over. (..once enough software has been written/ported for >>>> that to be feasible, if it ever is..) >>>> I have already documented what happens with the 7450, and my thinkpad >>>> T430. There wasn't much to document for the 430. >>>> >>>> I also have a Dell Latitude e7440. I just tested it, and it looks like >>>> it gives results similar to the T430: >>>> >>>> ..a bunch of output.. >>>> >>>> /dev/sdM0: MMC Host Controller >>>> /dev/sdM1: MMC Host Controller >>>> /dev/sdM2: MMC Host Controller >>>> bootargs is (tcp, tls, il, local!device)[] >>>> >>>> ..which I suspect indicates that this hardware is not supported, or >>>> something else is wrong. there absolutely may be critical info in the "a >>>> bunch of output". unfortunately, my phone (which contains my camera) is >>>> broken, so if more info is needed, we either have to wait, or I have to >>>> type it in. >>>> >>>> ..and I have now done the same test with the T420, which I have been >>>> using as one of my two daily drivers. With it, I am able to select what I >>>> think is the boot drive.. but when I do, it just asks me again.. and >>>> again.. and again.. looks like an infinite loop to me.. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 4:35 PM Michael Jensen < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> wow.. well, thanks! Yes, that will be greatly appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> I have already tried a separate computer, I encountered another kind >>>>> of problem, that I also documented. I can certainly try it again, but >>>>> even >>>>> if I do, the controller for the current machine will still be absolutely >>>>> appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> Michael :-) >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 11:18 AM Ori Bernstein <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 09:20:05 -0500, Michael Jensen < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Thank you enormously for your help. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > term% ip/ipconfig >>>>>> > term% sysinfo -p >>>>>> > >>>>>> > this gives: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 1) near the bottom of the s creen where there is no window: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > #l1: file does not exist: 'lib/firmware/iwm-7265-17' >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 2) timewise after that, directly below the term% sysinfo -p, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://sysinfo.9front.org/src/646/body >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ..now.. that might already have auto-submitted a bunch of >>>>>> information to >>>>>> > your servers.. if that is the case.. well.. you are the masters.. >>>>>> ;-) >>>>>> > ..hats off to you.. :-) >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> Alright -- so, it looks like there's no support for your SATA >>>>>> controller right now, though I think it'll be really easy to >>>>>> add. I'll give it a shot later this week, and put together an >>>>>> iso you can test with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alternatively, try a separate computer. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ori Bernstein >>>>>> ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6c44b64df5590184-Mc9f2b197da5a20214d66ebc7 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
