On Wed, Oct 7, 2026 at 7:12 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 07, 2026, at 5:20 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
> > I'm mystified about where you came up with the 1.5A number you mentioned 
> > earlier.
>
> It's the amperage provided by the powered port of my T420.  At least, I read 
> that somewhere, might have that wrong.

Are you sure that's not max source current the port is capable of
providing? Was it actually drawing that with your device plugged in?

> On Wednesday, October 07, 2026, at 5:20 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
> > Does the laptop tell you how much current the port is drawing when these 
> > things are plugged in?
>
> From here: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=366919
> "As far as I'm aware not any system's USB-implementation has hardware to 
> measure actual, live draw; this would be information unavailable to any 
> software, be it Windows, Linux or BIOS/UEFI-based."

I'm not sure that I trust that good ol' rene over at the Linux Mint
forums know definitively, but it is true that you can get the device
to tell you it's _advertised_ max power, but it can still draw more.

> and: "When you type usb-devices | less into a terminal you're presented with 
> your devices' advertised maximum draw in the MxPwr fields."
>
> I get MxPwr=98mA, which is tiny.  At least, that is the only output that is 
> for a usb device, so..  so so much for the 1.5 number I quoted above. -_-

Yeah, I doubt that power is the problem. If the device were really
drawing that, it's likely a hardware over-current protection would
kick in and shut it down.

> On Wednesday, October 07, 2026, at 5:20 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
> > how would you know whether it was the mouse, or the adapter?
>
> This goes to show how little I thought about the problem.  Reflecting on it 
> now, I thought of the adapter as being just a bunch of wires, not an active 
> electronic device that would actually draw power.  Without the mouse 
> attached, I assumed it would just act as an extension of the pi, with no 
> current flowing.  With no current flowing.. no power consumed.  So the fact 
> that it reacted at all with just the adapter attached was an eye-opener.

My guess is that this is a software problem, or hardware doing
something funky like split high- and low- speed transactions that the
dwc_otg controller in the Pi doesn't deal with well.

        - Dan C.

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