Sorry Jim,

I admit that I was using the words of the original poster. Here they are 
below.

> jimpurcell2001 wrote:
>
> I did;t have Partition Magice I wouldn't know that most if not all
> hard drives hava an unallocated 7.8 Megabyte partition on them. Even my
> USB external hard drive has one.

Dragonfly

JIM wrote:
>
> Dragon,
>
> > All hard drives do not have unallocated partitions on them.
>
> First a tedious grammar lesson. What you actaully said above os that NO
> drives hace unallocated partitions. The correct way of saying it is 
> NOT all
> hard drives... etc. The NOT modifies ALL. Sorry, I have a language fetish
> going on.
>
> > Sometimes manufacturers load an image of a certain size.
>
> I have never seen a drive that did not have the 7.8 empty partition. I 
> can
> imagine how they could prevent the empty partition using an image. And 
> this
> could be a cost benefit. If they had some kind of rig with one master 
> drive
> with a modified OS and a bunch of tempty drives in some kind of slave
> function. Then the program on the master drive copies the images to the
> slave drive. The OS is not monitoring the slaves and the ccopy program 
> has a
> special OS on it that bypasses the standard OS operations which would
> prevent the images from being copied to unpartitioned slaves.
>
> Notice that I said that I can imagine this, I have no idea whether 
> they do
> it that way. My imagination was influenced by how the drives whould 
> not have
> the empty partition. It almost seems to be something built into the OS 
> since
> my external drive has one as well.
>
> > Windows will not allow you to look at most foreign partitions.
>
> True, and BTW, I did manage to view the contents of the 39. Meg parittion
> where the utilities are stored since the latest PM has a browse 
> function. I
> tried copying the files to another folder but that did not work.
> Unfprtunately that did not work with the CP/M partition. I am going to 
> call
> the Dell tech today and ask about the CP/M partition and about how I will
> get my free copy of Vista.
>
> Oh, both the size and the 'used' attributes of the CP/M partition are
> exactly the same size. That suggests to me that it is just an image 
> rather
> than a collection of files.
>
> > take a peek at it by booting with a Linux LiveCD.
>
> I will try that just to see whether it works.
>
> >'Why would you want to look at it'?
>
> My response is what I Sir Hillery said when asked why he climed the
> mountain. "Because it's there."
>
> >If it has utilities on it, would you want to modify it?
>
> I don't know what the CP/M paritition has on in it, the utilities are 
> on the
> other mystery partition.
>
> > If the partition is simply empty space, by all means, reclaim it.
>
> Nope, the size and used are the same. I suppose that if the Dell tech 
> says
> that the system does not in any way use that partition I might delete it.
> Well, maybe not. I am not hurting for space on my 250 G drive. :-)
>
> Jim
>
>  



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