Emile,

>> All hard  drives do not have unallocated partitions on them

> That quote is a contradiction!  There is NO such thing as "unallocated
> partitions".

Yes, that is true, but we do sometimes use language shortcuts. Just as we 
get into the habit of using innaccurate grammar, see my earlier message 
about ALL.

> The "so called secret" partition on some PCs is not unallocated.

You are getting partitions and unallocated drive space mixed up here. The 
secret partitions are notlabelled as unallocated. And Dell seems not to use 
any secret partitions for recovery purposes. In fact some computer companies 
are confusing us these days by placing at least some of the recovery files 
right in the C partition. My two most recent computers have provided recover 
disks AND 'recover files in the open'.

>Those partitions can be deleted and lost on purpose or  accidentally.

My first experience with them came with my brother's computer. Somehow I 
manged to delete the hidden recover partition. Interettingly HP sent him a 
real recover set of disks, I htink for free.

>  In that case the space then becomes unallocated space that  can be 
> re-partitioned,  reformatted

Yeah, Yeah! :-)  Been there done that. :-)

> On my Gateway it was  possible to copy  any recovery stuff to a CD

Yes, my Sony's had a sratrup notice telling me to create recovery disks. 
That is to enable recovery if the hard drive should crash. BTW, although 
'everyone' says 'it's not IF your drive will crash, but WHEN', I have not 
had a hard drive crash since my I got my first mutti Gigabyte drive. I have 
a drawer full of drives. I use two 120 G drives to creat an NAS, net 
attached storage device.

> New PCs come with tons and tons of special stuff

Some is good, some is worthless. I like the utility partition on my Dell. I 
don't like that I can't do a one click restore. I have to first run an OS 
disk that installs the OS and a few apps, then I have to install the drivers 
individually. I keep computer recovery systems as the last resort however. I 
use Norton Ghost to cloe my C partitions to a partition at the end of my 
hard drives, in fact two of them. I never fill up my drives so I have plenty 
of room for this. I can also clone to my exterhal hard drive.

Thanks for the comments, I enjoy discussing this stuff. Yes, I know, 'get a 
life!' :-)

Jim 



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