Brian, I never said that you were insulting and what is more I have 
yet to see anyone actually insult you. We have tried very patiently 
to offer our very best advice to you based on our extensive knowledge 
and experience.

Now if you do not like what we are saying then you have the right to 
disagree with us and ignore the advice, as I said before, you are 
there with the "puter" and can see and hear what we cannot, therefore 
unless you tell us any differant we can only assume certain things.

As I see it, none of the deas put forward has cured the problem, so 
you are faced with a position that is going to cost you money and the 
options are A) take it to a repair shop, B) buy a new sound card and 
install it with the correct drivers, buy a new microphone, check and 
replace any cables between the sockets where you are plugging 
everything into (assuming you are plugging into a front mounted 
accessory) and the actual souncard installed at the rear of the puter.

Option B) is more likely to be the least cost option and then you 
should have your sound back working just the way you want without all 
of this unnecassary flameing of people who are offering their very 
best advice to you.




--- In [email protected], "proudtexan" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> MMMM. graham lets see who was being outta line and insulting first.
> sure not me and its pretty hard to know on a self made puter what 
goes
> where when theres no direction. so then logic sets in and you have 
to
> try every plug. i never said i was a genius. but its pretty bad 
when a
> computer "pro" cant figure out that maybe its not the sockets etc. i
> even said i would take it to a repair shop or a friend. Me chill out
> dont think so. YOu just are not gonna talk down to me any kind of 
way.
> You folks that think you are all high and mighty will be at the 
bottom
> one day. If ya dont what a fight learn how to talk to folks. Maybe
> other folks bow down at your feet. When you talk crazy to them. I am
> not the one who will.      
> 
> 
> I'm sure that I speak for all of those who are trying and those
> who
> > > have tried to help you, but you seem to understand very little
> about
> > > computers in general and also the information you provide is 
very
> > > weak and it gives very little to actually work on.
> > >
> > > Can we get one thing clear now, can you play a music CD for
> instance
> > > OK?
> > >
> > > If the answer is yes, can hear the music OK and it of listenable
> > > quality then we can assume that the soundcard is functioning OK
> and
> > > has the correct drivers installed.
> > >
> > > It is perfectly possible that while playing music or a similar
> sound
> > > source, that you may have plugged the microphone into the 
speaker
> > > socket by accident, in which case it is highly likey the
> microphone
> > > is now damaged as a result. A microphone provides an output
> voltage
> > > of millievolts (mV) and a speaker out is in the range of Volts 
(V)
> > > which is a 1,000 times higher.
> > >
> > > So I suggest that perhaps your best way forward now is to take
> the
> > > computer to a repair shop somewhere and let them try to sort it
> out
> > > for you. They will have the added advantage to any of us here on
> the
> > > forum of actually being able to see and hear what is happening.
> > >
> > > I can say with all honesty, that the advise you have been given
> so
> > > far is 100% accurate and in most cases would have resulted in
> > > positive outcome. We cannot see or hear what you can and that is
> the
> > > vital link in the chain.
> > >
> > > Can any of your friends try your microphone on their computers 
to
> see
> > > if it is working in the first place?, no amount of help and
> advise is
> > > ever going to make your microphone work if it is broken and 
needs
> > > replaceing.
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Graham"
> <graham.l.n.butcher@> wrote:
> >
> > While not wishing to get into an argument with you, for a person 
who 
> > as you say knows a lot about computers and could probabley put us 
all 
> > to shame, lets first get a few things straight.
> > 
> > As a proffesional I can tell you that the advice I and a lot of 
> > others on here have given to you is 100% correct and would 
normally 
> > have resulted in a 100% cure for your problems.
> > 
> > Secondly as you claim to have tried all possible combinations of 
> > sockets, it is highly likly that the microphone is now dead as a 
> > result of shoving a voltage down the wires somewhere in the 
> > region of 1000 times its normal withstand voltage. Try and plug a 
car 
> > bulb into your normal wiring in your house and see how long the 
bulb 
> > lasts if you doubt what I'm saying here.
> > 
> > Thirdly have you actually tried your microphones on another 
computer 
> > to see if they are dead or alive?
> > 
> > No normal computer wise person would dream of plugging a 
microphone 
> > into a speaker socket, it is a shame that most sound cards use 
> > standard 3.5mm jackplugs and sockets for all inputs and outputs 
but 
> > there is little or nothing else designed for the job that will 
fit 
> > onto the small plate. This is why most good quality sound cards 
> > actually colour code their sockets and the jackplugs so people 
can 
> > avoid causing trouble by simply matching colours on plug and 
sockets.
> > 
> > What I said about taking the computer to a repair shop is 
perfectly 
> > good advice because the one thing that nobody else on this forum 
can 
> > do is to physically see and hear what if anything is actually 
> > happening with your computer. The repair shop can also see your 
> > microphones and headset/speakers etc., we cannot and we are 
probably 
> > 1,000's of miles away from you and we are here giving you 
perfectly 
> > good advice all totally free of charge so it you who is out of 
order 
> > and are insulting our intelligence by saying that even a 4 year 
old 
> > could understand, so perhaps it is time to find a 4 year year old 
or 
> > take it into a repair shop because you clearly think that we, and 
> > many of us are proffesional computer engineers do not know what 
we 
> > are doing or saying.
> > 
> > Lastly as you call yourself "proudtexan" then if you replicate 
the 
> > experiment with the car bulb, you will be connecting a 12V bulb 
onto 
> > a 110V mains supply which is 9.1666 times the rated voltage of 
the 
> > car bulb and the bulb will not last more then about 
10milliseconds 
> > before it blows itself to bits and yet you expect your microphone 
to 
> > still be working after what you have done? It may well still 
work, 
> > all depends on the electronic circuitary and if it was made with 
a 
> > over voltage protection or not etc.
> > 
> > You clearly do not know as much about computers as you think or 
else 
> > you would not be on this forum asking questions about a very 
simple 
> > sound setup problem.
> > 
> > I rest my case.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "proudtexan" 
> > <BrianScottThomas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > actually i know quite alot about computers and ive given yall 
vvery
> > > accurate and understandable info. that even a 4 year old could
> > > understand. ive been telling yall all along that i have 2 mics. 
one 
> > a
> > > headset and one a desktop. that i have plugged both of them 
into 
> > every
> > > socket in every way ya can imagine.that i can hear sound coming 
> > outta
> > > the puter.Even a 4 year old would have figured out another 
reason 
> > why
> > > this line of  questioning is not solving the problem. i even 
said 
> > that
> > > i tried this and everything known to man to get it to work. I 
have
> > > been around computers and been on them all my life. Maybe again 
> > like i
> > > said before. if i sent a everestt report like i keep saying. 
> > everybody
> > > could figure out whats wrong. dont even try to insult me about 
what 
> > i
> > > do and dont know. i will probaly put yall to shame.hell i even 
was
> > > trying to get a techie guy in my church to help if i can get 
ahold 
> > of
> > > him    
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Graham"
> > > <graham.l.n.butcher@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure that I speak for all of those who are trying and 
those 
> > who 
> > > > have tried to help you, but you seem to understand very 
little 
> > about 
> > > > computers in general and also the information you provide is 
very 
> > > > weak and it gives very little to actually work on.
> > > > 
> > > > Can we get one thing clear now, can you play a music CD for 
> > instance 
> > > > OK? 
> > > > 
> > > > If the answer is yes, can hear the music OK and it of 
listenable 
> > > > quality then we can assume that the soundcard is functioning 
OK 
> > and 
> > > > has the correct drivers installed.
> > > > 
> > > > It is perfectly possible that while playing music or a 
similar 
> > sound 
> > > > source, that you may have plugged the microphone into the 
speaker 
> > > > socket by accident, in which case it is highly likey the 
> > microphone 
> > > > is now damaged as a result. A microphone provides an output 
> > voltage 
> > > > of millievolts (mV) and a speaker out is in the range of 
Volts (V)
> > > > which is a 1,000 times higher.
> > > > 
> > > > So I suggest that perhaps your best way forward now is to 
take 
> > the 
> > > > computer to a repair shop somewhere and let them try to sort 
it 
> > out 
> > > > for you. They will have the added advantage to any of us here 
on 
> > the 
> > > > forum of actually being able to see and hear what is 
happening.
> > > > 
> > > > I can say with all honesty, that the advise you have been 
given 
> > so 
> > > > far is 100% accurate and in most cases would have resulted in 
> > > > positive outcome. We cannot see or hear what you can and that 
is 
> > the 
> > > > vital link in the chain.
> > > > 
> > > > Can any of your friends try your microphone on their 
computers to 
> > see 
> > > > if it is working in the first place?, no amount of help and 
> > advise is 
> > > > ever going to make your microphone work if it is broken and 
needs 
> > > > replaceing.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "proudtexan" 
> > > > <BrianScottThomas@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > i follow all the adivce ya giving me and like i said 
before. i 
> > have 
> > > > > plugged both mics in  all the sockets interchangeably. 
sounds 
> > like 
> > > > im 
> > > > > not the one whos not listening. and ive also said that i 
have 
> > check 
> > > > the 
> > > > > sound on the master control etc. its up as high as it will 
go 
> > and 
> > > > not 
> > > > > muted. i am using some chat programs and the recording 
program 
> > that 
> > > > > comes with vista. after i found the soundnot working in the 
> > chat 
> > > > > programs. I think i have stated the socket procedure that i 
wa 
> > > > doing in 
> > > > > other post. and yall keep asking what im doing with the 
> > sockets. My 
> > > > > answer is not going to change. as there is nothing more i 
can 
> > do 
> > > > but 
> > > > > that with the sockets.i cant give anymore info than what i 
keep 
> > > > > repeating in every post. like i said before i can post a 
> > everest 
> > > > report 
> > > > > then we might be able to figue out whats going on     
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Jim" <jpurcell@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >i tried the color coded sockets again the same thing 
> > happened as
> > > > > > > before.maybe i need to post a everest reportso folks 
can 
> > see if
> > > > > > > anything is conflicting.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You are just not providing enough information. How are 
you 
> > > > verifying 
> > > > > that 
> > > > > > you have no mic sound. Do you have sound from other 
sources? 
> > Have 
> > > > you 
> > > > > opened 
> > > > > > the Play Control, double click the speaker on the bottom 
> > right of 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > screen. Maybe the volume on one of the channels is muted 
or 
> > the 
> > > > > control is 
> > > > > > at minimum.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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