@ Fabio : no matter what the company needs you there is still your own
government which controls the shipment . you will not be able to do any of
this unless you are connected in organized crime . average people , hackers
, engineers , etc are far from these things . of course talk about it on
mailing list as we wish , but reality is much different .

@ Javier : that's the thing . i dont have 500K neither you nor anybody
around here . that's the kind of money government can come up with . or
maybe highly first class companies . in the private sector they wont risk
going to court by ignoring state law to smuggle GSM interception system .
talk to my hollywood style as much as you want . its all talk . you can not
buy such devices . nobody around here ever purchased them .

so , what's the point in all this , to insist that GSM is broken ? everybody
knows this . but is it still secure for average citizen ? yes it is .

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:11 PM, javier falbo <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I agree with FABIO.
>
> p q, if you have us$ 500.000, i immediately send you the equipment WITHOUT
> any letter or anything. jeje.
>
> Check my links before on the mailing list. Money moves the world my friend.
>
> Javier
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 19:38:17 +0100
> > CC: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [A51] Passive vs. semi-active
>
> >
> > Well,
> >
> > some times ago found also an Italian company working in intelligence/
> > counter intelligence consulting that provide those tools by renting it
> > for 2500 EUR / day + 1000 EUR to have an operator to handle 'site
> > operations' .
> >
> > I think that when money moves, not that much companies care about the
> > rules.
> >
> > Fabio
> >
> > On 02/gen/10, at 19:31, p q wrote:
> >
> > > notice the "export license"
> > > eventually you need to introduce yourself and hand over the letter
> > > of introduction from your embassy . this is pretty trivial in this
> > > business and anything alike in intelligence and defense area . the
> > > myth of selling and purchasing these on the web is just plain lie .
> > > they can not even shit these equipment to your country without your
> > > customs permission .
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