Peter,

Well you are getting older Ronnie. :-)

Rich

Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist


                                                                       
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Richard,

Actually, if memory serves, I introduced this as a way to express
relationships in spreadsheets.  Thus you could find out in a spreadsheet
showing quarterly gross expenses, costs, net revenue, and results, that a
given cell (say the lower right, total net for the year) was derived from
the quarterly net results; or derived from the yearly total gross minus the
yearly total costs; etc. etc.


Regards,

Peter Korn
Accessibility Principal
Oracle



      Nope. controller for indicates that an object controls another
      elsewhere in the application. This was derived from the work we did
      with Sun on Java where we had a problem in the SwingSet application.
      Here we had a series of checkboxes that controlled the contents of a
      listbox (types of foods). We had no way of showing the relationship
      so we created controller for.

      for pop-up we had a has popup for aria that had an IA2 relationship
      corresponding to it. Wouldn't you have an IA2_RELATION_HAS_POPUP?

      Rich


      Rich Schwerdtfeger
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      Inactive hide details for David Bolter ---02/25/2010 02:56:41 PM---I
      wonder if this is semantically captured by IA2_RELATION_CODavid
      Bolter ---02/25/2010 02:56:41 PM---I wonder if this is semantically
      captured by IA2_RELATION_CONTROLLER_FOR?
                                                                       
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      I wonder if this is semantically captured by
      IA2_RELATION_CONTROLLER_FOR?

      Not sure there is any harm to distinguishing POPUP_INITIATOR_FOR
      though
      (or maybe POPPER_FOR).

      cheers,
      D
      On 25/02/10 9:23 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
      > I can add IA2_RELATION_NODE_PARENT_OF.
      >
      > I just checked the list of relations and there is one other one
      that
      > doesn't have a complement, i.e.  IA2_RELATION_POPUP_FOR which is
      defined as:
      >    This object is a transient component related to the target
      object.
      > When this object is activated the target object doesn't loose
      focus.
      > Is there any need for its complement, e.g. something like
      > IA2_RELATION_POPUP_INITIATOR_FOR?
      >
      > Pete
      > ---
      > James Teh wrote:
      >
      >> On 10/11/2009 3:28 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
      >>
      >>> Joanmarie requested us to implement new RELATION_NODE_PARENT_OF
      in
      >>> Firefox for ATK -
      https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527461.
      >>> This relation is reciprocal relation to NODE_CHILD_OF. I wonder
      if AT
      >>> using IA2 are interested to have this relation as well. On the
      another
      >>> hand new relation will keep IA2 and ATK more closely what is good
      in
      >>> general.
      >>>
      >> While NVDA doesn't really have a use for this at present, I think
      it
      >> makes sense for the sake of symmetry if nothing else.
      >>
      >> Jamie
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