Hi Alex, 

Exposing clipped content is great for screen readers. What AI  Squared is 
saying is that they would like to know something is not visible ( due to 
clipping) as they are trying to magnify what is visible. Imagine you have 
low vision and are reading a text and magnifying that part of the scree 
but it is partially obscured. So, you are magnifying a part of the screen 
that does not exist visually.

Having access to the offscreen information is essential for a screen 
reader user who may be searching for content and does no care if something 
is obscured but for a magnifier users this is a problem. AI Squared has 
had to resort to using their offscreen model which represents only visual 
information to magnify as things are being read to the user. 

I would like to reduce the dependency on having to use screen scraping 
technology. It is invasive to systems and is less accurate than 
accessibility APIs. 

Rich

Rich Schwerdtfeger
CTO Accessibility Software Group



Alexander Surkov <[email protected]> 
05/15/2010 01:35 AM

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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] exposing content that is not visible






Hi, Rich.

Clipped and scrolled off elements operable, for example, keyboard
shortcuts works. So I would say they should be accessible, expose
offscreen state, attached to accessible tree and as consequence no new
API is needed. At least this is how it works in Firefox.

Thank you.
Alex.


On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I was speaking with Shawn Warren of AI Squared and he indicated that he
> would like to have IA2 be able to hid access to content that is not 
visible.
> In particular it appears Shawn was referring to content and componentry 
that
> was clipped out due to window size and other windows obscuring the 
content.
>
> I was thinking about this and perhaps the right way to do this would be 
have
> an API feature that would turn on clipping for at least documents. What 
do
> others think?
>
>
> Rich Schwerdtfeger
> CTO Accessibility Software Group
>
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