On 2/4/13 5:13 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
> Hi Alex, I am going to try to get some momentum going on this again...
>
> On 9/23/12 11:52 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
>> Hi, Pete. Here's my two cents.
>>
>> 1) It makes sense to allow IAccessible2_2::attribute to take sequence
>> of attribute names like "margin-left;margin-right;" to get these
>> attribute values for a single call.
> Is this important enough to add additional development effort for
> server side implementers?
>> 2) It'd be nice to add a reference to relation constants for
>> relationTargetsOfType method description, see "[in] type The requested
>> relation type."
> Done.
>> 3) Any specific reason to use long for nTargets in
>> relationTargetsOfType since it seems it never takes negative values?
> It's a good point, but since an unsigned long wasn't used anywhere
> else it seems like at least for the sake of consistency to leave it as is.
>> 4) Should we keep IAccessibleDocument restricted to HTML documents?
>> After all HTML sounds like an implementation detail. The idea it
>> serves to is when the loaded document shouldn't be read from the
>> beginning.
> I changed it to:
> /** @brief Returns the most recently used anchor target within a
> document.
>
> A document's most recently targeted in-page anchor is returned. A
> typical use
> of this method is to fetch the anchor target within an HTML
> document. In this
> case anchor targets are those which has been defined with the <a>
> tag.
>> 5) "Document that copyText, cutText, and pasteText are deprecated."
>> Can you please refresh me on it? The reason specified is "This
>> function is available via the application's GUI." but it seems it can
>> be applied to the whole IAccessibleEditableText interface.
> This was a long discussion involving several people back in June 2011
> from the 7th to the 29th and this is what we ended up with. It was
> determined that the three deprecated methods are clipboard operations
> and there are too many differences and ambiguities in how applications
> implement their clipboard functionality. Also copy/cut/paste methods
> are not in use while the other ones are so we can't deprecate the
> entire interface. We also talked about adding, if needed at some
> later date, five new actions for cut, copy, pasteDefault,
> pasteFormatted, pasteUnformatted.
>> 6) IAccessibleHypertext2::hyperlinks. Just to make sure: we decided to
>> go with array instead EnumVariant? Do AT want to get all items at once
>> even if the document is big and has many links?
> Back on 14 Aug 2012 you agreed that the array would be preferred in
> order to keep it consistent with the array returned by
> IAccessible2_2::relationTargetsOfType.
>> 7) IA2_RELATION_GROUPING_OBJECT_FOR: "This object is a grouping object
>> for the target object." - it'd be nice to give a hint for
>> implementers. After a time I don't really remember what is it about :)
> Actually this got into this draft of the spec by mistake. We agreed
> it was not needed back on 1 March 12. Ditto with
> IA2_RELATION_POPUP_INITIATOR_FOR. I removed them both.
>> 8) IA2_RELATION_NODE_PARENT_OF "This object is a parent of a target
>> object." It's not clear as well since it doesn't answer why
>> get_accParent doesn't work. Maybe you should say it's a logical parent
>> and the relation is reverse to RELATION_NODE_CHILD_OF. It is used, for
>> example, for flat structured trees.
> I could remove it. Noone else showed interest in it other than for
> symmetry with IA2_RELATION_NODE_CHILD_OF. The comment about
> get_accParent is a good one. You asked for this new relation back on
> 9 Nov 09 because you added it for ATK and wanted to enhance the
> symmetry between the ATK and IA2 interfaces. Or I could just add
> another sentence, "This relation is the reciprocal of
> IA2_RELATION_NODE_CHILD_OF." I didn't understand the comment about
> flat structured trees but if you want to keep this relation please
> provide an additional sentence.
>> 9) Description for IA2_RELATION_POPUP_INITIATOR_FOR doesn't make
>> things really clear for implementers too. Btw, the used string is
>> "popInitiatorFor", I'm not sure if this is on demand, should it be
>> "popupInitiatorFor" instead?
> Removed. See #7.
>> 10) Both IAccessibleHypertext and IAccessibleText are marked as
>> deprecated (see http://a11ysoft.com/ia2/docs/html/), however
>> IAccessibleHypertext2 and IAccessibleText2 are inherited from them.
>> What does deprecation mean here?
> Thanks for noticing that Alex. Does anyone see any issues if I remove
> the inheritance?
Actually I should not remove the inheritance. I'll remove the text
indicating deprecation.
>> Thank you.
>> Alex.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Pete Brunet <p...@a11ysoft.com> wrote:
>>> I finished up the IA2 1.3 work over the weekend but due to some changes on
>>> the LF web site am unable to post it there. I've provided it at
>>> a11ysoft.com. Please review it. I won't get to the object attributes until
>>> later (to add explicit-name).
>>>
>>> documentation: http://a11ysoft.com/ia2/docs/html
>>> zip file: http://a11ysoft.com/ia2.zip
>>>
>>> The one bug I see so far is that I don't have a link for the IAccessible2
>>> interface on the main page. That is at:
>>> http://www.a11ysoft.com/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible2.html
>>>
>>> The zip file contains everything I'll eventually post on the LF site, among
>>> other things, changelog.txt and the merged IDL file, ia2_api_all.idl.
>>>
>>> Pete
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