We are certainly not raising concessions as a rights issue, but merely
discussing it in the light of 'who benefits more from it'. I would not
like to make it a rights issue, but certainly everyone, including the
companies who spend more for adds and who are under some obligation to
spend for Corporate Social Responsibility initiatives must seriously see
the logic and the benefits.

Subramani
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this seams the right and positive attitude  to me. I know with my day to
day 
experience that if we can co-ordinate with visual persons with equal and

positive attitude those people help us. concession  and reservation are
only 
helping tool not a solution. If anybody is giving concession or
reservation 
we should welcome it but we should not take as right. remember other's
duty 
is not our rights
Abhijit
Hyderabad
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> Hi all,
>
> Aren't we coming to somewhere near the concept of creamy layer among
> ourselves. Those who require and those who do not. But, one thing for
sure
> we all want the disabled friendly/fully accessible  environment. Can
this
> happen with concessions?
>
> Its a common practice that if you want additional features./facilities
you
> have to pay more for that. And if we are getting the facilities we
demand
> then we should come forward and pay for that.
>
> We should also not forget that Income tax department, Govt. of India
gives
> tax deduction under section 80u of Rs. 75,000 or 50,000 as the case
may be
> and its also for those parents who have a disabled child. This is
given to
> compensate for the hardship we face in our day to day life. Is this
not a
> big relief?
>
> Also if I am not wrong persons under VH and OH category but not HH,
get
> double the conveyance/transport allowance then other govt. employees
get.
>
> I believe we should demand for more and more facilities/equal 
> participation
> in education, transport, banking, building by laws,  .... And
concessions
> should be for those who really need them.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Regards
>
> Rajat agarwal
> New Delhi
>
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> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:33 PM
> Subject: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Having followed the thread on DGCA guidelines and the subsequent
> discussion
>> of concessions for the blind or escorts, I have been thinking about
it 
>> for
> a
>> couple of days.
>>
>> I feel that in our country, the existence of public sector in
businesses
>> like transport and education has benifitted persons with blindness.
If 
>> all
>> the industry and utility services were run by private firms, I don't
> imagine
>> they would come forward with so many concessions and exemptions for
us.
>> Providing concessions is much simpler for public sector or
government.
>> However, this raises a big question of who should eventually pay for
the
>> concessions?
>>
>> As citizens of the country, we are entitled to lead a life which
closely
>> resembles a sighted or normal person who doesn't have a disability.
This
>> obviously entails extra expenditure because of various reasons. To
offset
>> this additional cost, concessions and exemptions are provided. I
strongly
>> feel that since the government collects taxes from individuals as
well as
>> businesses in the private sector, it should be the one paying for
these
>> concessions. If the Railways were privatised, the cost of providing
>> concession to blind persons should be born by the government and not
by
> the
>> private company which runs the railways. If a private company
voluntarily
>> comes forward with concessions, it is a very good gesture on their
part.
> But
>> if concessions are imposed by law, the cost of these concessions
should 
>> be
>> reimbursed.
>>
>> For instance, when most of the other passengers of airlines were
paying
> full
>> fair for their tickets, blind persons were only paying half. If we
put 
>> the
>> social argument of concession aside for a while, the airline company
was
>> loozing money by carrying blind passengers. The airline company in
> question
>> also pays the same tax irrespective of offering concessions. So,
there is
> no
>> insentive at all for the airline company by carrying blind
passengers. On
>> the contrary, the company gets less money.
>>
>> I think it is the responsibility of the government to provide or pay
for
> the
>> concessions as they should look after the welfare of its citizens. 
>> Private
>> companies or public sector companies for that matter should never be
> forced
>> to bear the cost of concessions.
>>
>> What do you all think about this? I know this is never going to
happen in
>> India.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran.
>>
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