But George sir, won't it be unfair towards sighted to make them write on computers for the sake of visually impaired? Hand writing is a very important aspect, especially during childhood. Just like we find number of flaws in a method suggested for the blind by someone who is not familiar with the field, a sighted person will have number of arguements against writing exams on computers in place of hand writing. I was reasonably sighted during my childhood for writing exams on my own. Don't want to miss on that fun.
On 1/12/16, George Abraham <[email protected]> wrote: > A universal examination method has to be evolved. Recording on tape seems > to have a number of draw backs. > > I believe the system should move towards all students writing exams using > computers. This will not happen overnight. It will take time. But there is a > need to head that way. I do not believe that blind students must not be > singled out for special treatment. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Vamshi. G > Sent: 12 January 2016 20:55 > To: [email protected]; AccessIndia: a list for discussing > accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers > > Every person good at writing need not be so in talking and vice versa. > Though confidence in speaking might not be a factor in evaluation, the > fact that recording is going on might not be comfortable for everyone. > Besides, I always feel evaluater knowing that the paper belongs to a > visually impaired is not desirable. People tend to value performance > of disabled a bit higher than that of non-disabled. But writing exam > on computer also has this drawback. > > As far as other add on benefits like liberal evaluation, grace marks > are concerned, a strict no to them! The whole idea of enabling > environment is lost with these activities. > > > On 1/12/16, Vedprakash <[email protected]> wrote: >> Tape-recording answers is dangerous. >> Firstly, the pronunciation part. >> I can furnish numerous examples in Hindi, where different people pronounce >> the same word differently due to regional considerations. >> Secondly, when we record an answer, little time is left for the process of >> thinking. Either you pause the recording frequently, or you have to speak >> flawlessly and continuously. >> During the recording, a shrill horn from a nearby vehicle may disturb the >> recording and the checker may not get the recording correctly. >> Many more such disturbances may occur resulting in a bad recording. >> Exciting Offers to Grab Vedprakash Sharma >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah >> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:30 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers >> >> What if the tape-recorder malfunctions? In 2002, my typewriter didn't >> work >> when I went to DU to appear for the exams for the post of typist. >> Multiple options may be given to the blind for writing exams. At the same >> time, teachers should prepare the students to the extent of securing good >> marks on their own without expecting the scribes to compensate for the >> poor >> preparation and/or negligence of the students. >> >> Regards. >> >> >> On 1/12/16, Vidhya Y <[email protected]> wrote: >>> what about math? tell it like a Poem? >>> typing would be fair instead of recording. >>> the Sighted write so we should type! >>> that way teachers can deduct marks for spelling mistakes and so on in >>> case of English Language. >>> for this, students should be introduced to assistive technology early >>> on, which may take time, but not impossible. >>> liberal evaluation/ grace marks as mentioned in the article is given >>> to all special Students. >>> which would make the blind incompetent if practiced. >>> I agree that these initiatives maybe desirable for learning and >>> complex disabilities! >>> many of the policies that come up are not well thought off in advance. >>> I feel the government should consult the disabled first, as these >>> policies are used by us and not those who make the policy. >>> >>> On 1/12/16, Aravind R <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> then, our recorded answers should be crisp and clear to attract >>>> listeners who put marks. if we tell answers slowly or if we want to >>>> change what we said, deleting old recording and inserting new will be >>>> tedius and time consuming. >>>> i prefer typing through screen readers else writers should continue. >>>> >>>> On 1/12/16, raaju <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Oh my gosh! I can't speak my answer by recording. I preffer computer >>>>> writing or exam in Braille. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>> Behalf Of [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:50 PM >>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>>> concerning the disabled. >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers >>>>> >>>>> One step towards independent exam system. But I believe it would be >>>>> good to provide options like use of computer or recording. >>>>> Sensitising examination authorities would also be needed to avoid >>>>> bitter experience. >>>>> >>>>> I see it may be a bit challenge for teachers during correction as >>>>> accent may vary. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C >>>>> >>>>>> On 12-Jan-2016, at 13:52, George Abraham <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Would be interested in knowing the groups view on this initiative! >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh >>>>>> Sent: 12 January 2016 13:32 >>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>>>> concerning the disabled. >>>>>> Subject: [AI] Blind can record answers >>>>>> >>>>>> Times of India: >>>>>> >>>>>> Blind students can 'record' board exam answers on tape recorder >>>>>> Abhishek Choudhari >>>>>> | TNN | Jan 9, 2016, 04.24 PM IST >>>>>> NAGPUR: Don't be surprised if during this summer's state board exam >>>>>> a candidate asks the invigilator for additional 'cassette' instead >>>>>> of additional supplement. >>>>>> Students suffering from visual impairment (partial/full) can now >>>>>> record their answers on tape recorder rather than taking help of a >>>>>> writer. 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