Hello, I am not someone who posts here regularly but I think I would be abdicating my responsibility as a person with disability if I do not state my views on the UP population bill.
At the outset, let me be clear that Sec 15 of the bill is ableist and is discriminatory towards persons with disability. As Rahul observed, the bill is giving legal credence to an ableist mindset that signals to society that it is totally cool not to count your child with disability as a productive member. As the discussion here has brought out important points, let me restrict myself to a few observations. To state that ableism exists on ground hence the ableist provisions of the bill need no opposition is extremely problematic. That some of our members have opted for a political submission rather than asking the right questions and expose the ableism contained in the bill demonstrates internalised ableism. The job of disability rights activists (hoping that everyone participating here identifies as one) is to oppose ableism on all fronts. The task at hand for us is to show how the bill encourages an ableist mindset and humiliates the dignity of persons with disability. Secondly, to call any opposition to the bill as “privilege” is a deliberate attempt to obfuscate the ableism in the bill. As a person with disability, if I am talking to a poor person from rural UP about the ableism in the bill, I am not being privileged. Put differently, privilege is context specific. Thirdly, the so-called pragmatic circumstances are continuously evolving and are amenable to change. We are here because a few individuals before us decided to change the ground reality and pragmatic circumstances by striving to opposing ableism. What would have happened if they had decided not to fight, because ableism is a ground reality, right? It is a matter of happiness that organizations like NPRD have come forward with a clear position on this and hope more organizations join them in this. We should rightfully demand the government to remove Sec 15 and instead focus on increasing life opportunity for persons with disability. Rather than denigrating the dignity of persons with disability, government should focus on measures which will encourage parents to view their children with disability in a much more positive light. Put simply, I would like my parents to see me as a person with dignity and I would like every person with disability to feel the same. regards, Tony On 21/07/2021, 'Mahendragalani' via AccessIndia <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello my young friend, wrong word, it is not preaching from Austria, but > observation. I have also observed in the past, when you don’t find any > sensible argument, you start, in my case like preaching from Austria. Last > time around, you are making fun of someone, who made spelling mistakes. Me > you can Tryon criticize about being in Austria, however what will you say, > to Rahul and Ketan who are very much in India? > > Mahendra Galani, With warm regards. Sent from my iPhone > >> On 21.07.2021, at 09:53, Avichal Bhatnagar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We do not need preaching from people sitting in Austria, thank you. >> >>> On 7/20/21, 'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi All >>> i am surprise, that we have a member here, who in order to support >>> his political view, is justifying this inhuman approach. >>> >>> as Rahul said, we dont need enemy >>> , if we have such friend. >>> At 03:53 PM 7/20/2021 +0530, you wrote: >>>> Dear Friends, >>>> >>>> I too don't post often but what Rahul has written has compelled me to >>>> do so. I agree 100% with Rahul and believe that under no >>>> circumstances should this be allowed. In fact, if I understand the >>>> case law correctly, this can be challenged under Art. 21 of >>>> constitution as disabled children are negated. >>>> >>>> In fact, I am against ableism of all kinds: even when we are forced >>>> to behave in a particular manner though that may be inconvenient due >>>> to our disabilities as that is the norm in so-called able world, I am >>>> strongly against this. I don't like the use of "normal" word to >>>> describe people who are not disabled. We need not bring privilege or >>>> anything. If millions have problems bringing up disabled children, >>>> there are ample examples to show that disabled who are educated have >>>> done far better than their able-bodied siblings in lives and have >>>> helped their parents/siblings. In any case, population control cannot >>>> and should not be controlled by a law. Education and other measures >>>> could be brought in to do it. >>>> >>>> Ketan >>>> >>>> On 19/07/2021, Rahul Bajaj <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> One of us is arguing that it is wrong to treat the disabled as being >>>>> inferior and nonexistent and as good as dead. The other is saying that >>>>> this >>>>> is totally okay. Why? Because in the real world, the disabled should >>>>> learn >>>>> to put up with their denigration and humiliation. And yet I am the one > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. 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