uidai website is also inaccessible it is a clear failure of WCAG
success criteria1.1.1. it is not providing accessible captcha. not
only this many government website has the accessibility issue. the
most inaccessible website I have seen is jio.com. My humble request to
mission accessibility team is kindly consider this also file again
complain.

On 7/21/22, Rahul Bajaj <[email protected]> wrote:
>  agree, Harish sir. I think both paths can be pursued together. Seeking the
> enforcement of what is already on the statute book and seeking legislative
> reform to have stronger penalties. The service provider lobby in india is
> very strong. so getting any penalties approved will be very hard.
> Pragmatically, therefore, I think we often simply have to work with the
> framework that we have, imperefect as it is.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 18:06, Harish Kotian <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I agree, penalty as an option, should be used cautiously. Having said,
>> that, it is not the penalty amount which is a deterrent, but the
>> associated reputation risk is something which any establishment would
>> like to avoid. It sends a message across, the said party has done
>> something which deserves penalty. It vindicates it.This signal is not
>> the same as that of a reprimand. We should be open for that as well. A
>> nudge like that sends a sharp ripples. It breaks down myth that big
>> enterprise can get away because of their sheer size and that we are a
>> small fly of which they can easily manage.
>>
>>
>> Harish
>>
>> On 19/07/2022 17:24, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
>> > RPwD Act does envisage penalty of up to 5 lakh. SC fined Spice Jet 10
>> lakh
>> > for discriminating against a disabled person. We can use other fora
>> > also,
>> > like consumer courts.
>> >
>> > Let us not get hung up on punishing perpetrators, in my view. Instead,
>> let
>> > is put a positive spin on it. And use the penalties route judiciously.
>> >
>> > Rahul
>> >
>> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 08:26, Pinkesh Tailor <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> are these efforts backed by some constitutional or legal framework? I
>> >> mean, is there some kind of fine or punishment for not meeting the
>> >> accessibility guideline? Otherwise we would just be going round the
>> >> bush without any concrete results. Chasing each and every website or
>> >> mobile app owner and companies would prove to be a night mare. Instead
>> >> some law in the RPWD act would empower us to challenge for
>> >> accessibility mandates.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for
>> >>> analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer about
>> >>> the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that.
>> >>> To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws
>> >>> key+
>> >>> Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result
>> >>> Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the captcha
>> >>> text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in
>> >>> between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to
>> >>> go.
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia
>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>> While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view,
>> >>>>> the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its
>> >>>>> not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of
>> >>>>> situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio
>> >>>>> options or they should be math based ones.
>> >>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia
>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Dear Team,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues.
>> >>>>>> There we are facing captcha issue.
>> >>>>>> I kindly request you to consider this also.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Hello Ketan,
>> >>>>>>> Thankyou for your mail.
>> >>>>>>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular
>> OTT
>> >>>>>>> platforms in India since the past few months.
>> >>>>>>> SonyLiv
>> >>>>>>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few
>> >>>>>>> remediations
>> >> in
>> >>>>>>> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to
>> >>>>>>> share
>> a
>> >>>>>>> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive,
>> >>>>>>> would
>> >> be
>> >>>>>>> happy to share.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hotstar
>> >>>>>>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February
>> >> 2022,
>> >>>>>>> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication,
>> >>>>>>> they
>> >> are
>> >>>>>>> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall
>> >> update
>> >>>>>>> when get a concrete revert from them.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Dear Team,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Excellent initiative.  Nevertheless, I would like to draw your
>> >>>>>>>> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are
>> >> totally
>> >>>>>>>> inaccessible.  I acknoledge that in the priority of things
>> >>>>>>>> banking
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these
>> >>>>>>>> aspect
>> of
>> >>>>>>>> life as well since some of us like to use them.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas.  I am
>> >>>>>>>> aware
>> >>>>>>>> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it
>> >>>>>>>> becomes more and more interesting.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I
>> can
>> >>>>>>>> be of any help please do not hesitate.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Ketan
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility <
>> >> [email protected]>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if
>> you
>> >>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>> any feedback for us.
>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you
>> >>>>>>>>> The Mission Accessibility Team
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