Hello all This thread is not taking us anywhere. A lot of water has flown and lets stop at it now.
This thread is closed for any furthur discussion. Harish. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style > it looks to me that the debate is not going in the right direction. the > very > purpose of the language is to communicate with other fellow beings. in > this > globalised world, an expression may be recognised as "the appropriate one" > at the same time in some other region it may not. different pronunciations > and spellings for the same words, different words for the same expression > etc show that even if one uses correct english, he/she cannot satisfy the > people universally. therefore, in my opinion, going into the errors will > not > serve any purpose. if we are not able to understand something with the > piece > of writing that has been presented to us, let's be generous and ask for a > clarification. finally, if I have made a mistake while deliberating on the > subject, please ignore it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style > > >>I am distressed to write again. I feel that we have decided to be the >> second best at all times. My humble submission is that we must aim at >> being >> the best as far as possible. In fact, only because we are not native >> speakers of English we need to take special care. Also, when we claim to >> have acquired formal education upto a certain level a definitive standard >> is >> expected of us. >> >> If all this sounds discouraging, then God save us. We do not deserve to >> get >> any better reception in society than we get presently. In fact, we must >> always aim higher. I am not at all talking all this from a pedestal but >> would be really ashamed if I am not able to maintain a certain standard >> of >> language capabilities after a certain level of education. Let us not be >> apologetic of our mistakes but learn whenever we can and from wherever we >> can. I think the list is for healthy discussion in a way that is >> comfortable and comprehensible. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amit Bhatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style >> >> >>> Only good written and spoken language is not quite enough to prove that >>> you >>> are a gentleman or a person with good understanding. If we talk about >>> mistakes, then why to focus on language only, why not to take other part >>> of >>> our mistakes. I simply mean, are we not committing any mistake by >>> discussing >>> this off topic on the list? You rightly said: We are not English >>> teachers >>> and I would also like to add in favor of your statement that even taking >>> such language classes are perhaps not allowed here! >>> I think improving language skills is secondary matter but concentrating >>> towards betterment of attitude and civilization on priority bases is >>> most >>> necessary for some of our members. Secondly, I too didn't like the way >>> of >>> some people of providing solution to other in a most discouraging >>> expression. One is need to be very careful and encouraging while making >>> other understand. Encouraging other for their good is a moral duty of >>> every >>> human being but the way should not be that insulting. >>> If we are really serious in making other people fine in every aspect, >>> then >>> we don't need to let other feel shy or humiliated, we need to let them >>> feel >>> comfortable and confident. >>> We have started discussing this matter like nun of us had any relevant >>> subject to discuss here! I think Mr. Gobind or any member could be >>> suggested >>> at his personal ID with some better way. >>> Dear Gobind, You don't need to be apologized, there is nothing that you >>> feel sorry for any mistake. We all are here to learn and provide the >>> right >>> solution. No one is deputed here to observe the language mistakes. If we >>> understand the problem or matter by his or her expression, we are simply >>> expected to respond just that query in spite of making an issue. A >>> person >>> can learn well in a friendly and good environment. So friends, please >>> teach >>> and let other have an opportunity to learn English or whatever but first >>> create an atmosphere in order to fulfill the aims. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Amit Bhatt >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:13 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style >>> >>> >>>> I think that Improvisation should be the goal for us in terms of our >>>> language skills. However one should bear in mind that none of us are >>>> native English speakers and henceforth we should be very careful >>>> wwhile evaluating others and after all, we are not English teachers >>>> here on the list and I am a bit unhappy about the big brother >>>> attitude. I am also a bit dessatisfied in such comments about other's >>>> poor communicative skills. Having said that I leave any further >>>> comment on this topic to the moderators. But just a word before I >>>> sign-off on this topic and it goes out to those with poor >>>> communicative skills. Hey guise, you have nothing to loose. If I would >>>> have taken such dominating attitude seriously, then I would not have >>>> been where I am today. Therefore you have nothing to loose but to gain >>>> your self confidence. >>>> >>>> Vetri. >>>> >>>> On 09/02/2008, Abdul Razique <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> > I totally agree with Shadab bhai. >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "Shadab Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > To: <[email protected]> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:35 PM >>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > Writing style is something which cannot be changed as it reflects >>>> > > our >>>> > > nature - so I presume the subject for this discussion should be >>>> > > "Mind >>>> > > your language" or if this sounds offensive then "Check your >>>> > > language" >>>> > > to begin with. >>>> > > >>>> > > Well, I would say that there is no need telling others to write >>>> > > correct grammar here because the chief motive of this list is to >>>> > > solve >>>> > > the problems of blinds and not to promote good language skills - >>>> > > however, to my amazement, I have seen folks joining with poor >>>> > > language >>>> > > and soon bringing a remarkable refinement in their language by >>>> > > reading >>>> > > and writing here. Would it not be hobbling for them if we >>>> > > discourage >>>> > > them from the very outset by such insensitive comments? Tell me. >>>> > > >>>> > > It is plain common sense that nobody will make a dork of himself by >>>> > > intentionally making a blunder before such a great number of >>>> > > members. >>>> > > We should not send out such discouraging comments because they >>>> > > might >>>> > > suppress many bright futures beneath bashfulness. >>>> > > >>>> > > I will simply add logic prevails and this Mr Subramani would be >>>> > > well >>>> > > knowing as he would have edited many great thinkers with poor >>>> > > language. So there is no need caring a gory toss for English >>>> > > grammar >>>> > > here. Cracking such books and quickly dashing it off has always >>>> > > been >>>> > > a >>>> > > damn fun for me - try, you might enjoy it. >>>> > > >>>> > > Dear Govind, >>>> > > >>>> > > Congratulations. I presume in future your best selling point will >>>> > > be >>>> > > your courage of frankly expressing yourself. Get on with the life - >>>> > > it >>>> > > has a habit of welcoming the encouraged ones. >>>> > > >>>> > > Friends, I was not writing on this topic - but I did want to >>>> > > encourage >>>> > > the members who do not have a good English background like me and >>>> > > therefore might refrain from posting on the list. This was the only >>>> > > reason why I was bound - pardon me if I hurt anybody. I do not >>>> > > promise >>>> > > responding on this as I am very busy these days - so I send my best >>>> > > wishes to everybody, with undying hopes and encouraging regards, >>>> > > Shadab Husain >>>> > > >>>> > > To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > > with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> > > >>>> > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>> > > changes, >>>> > > please visit the list home page at >>>> > > >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> > > >>>> > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>>> > > signature database 2861 (20080209) __________ >>>> > > >>>> > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>>> > > >>>> > > http://www.eset.com >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with >>>> > the subject unsubscribe. >>>> > >>>> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>>> > visit the list home page at >>>> > >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> > >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. 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