Hi

It is necessary to start with a deadline.Sure enough, looking at the data it will be extended. Glad to know you concur with UDID implementation.We have seen with linking PAN with Adhar, the deadline was extended.


We too tend to lax without a deadline.


May I clear the myth which tends to be propagated in some quarters that I am arbitrary in intervening in a flamed and out of scope postings.It was certainly spelt out without context presently.


In many occasion in the past there was a effort to have a single disability card. However, the effort was halfhearted then. Hopefully, linked with Adhar it really happens.

We too need to keep the pressure that it happens.


Harish


On 19/03/2023 10:47, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:
For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally valid ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010. It was also  at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016.

Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this effort is baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the list now).

But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more than half of the disabled population who possess disability certificates have not been issued UDID cards. How can this be accepted?

Secondly, the central government's own departments do not accept the UDID - railways for instance insists that one should procure the card that it is issuing. Every year several cases are highlighted of MBBS aspirants whose UDID cards are rejected and a reverification of their disability done at designated centres. This defeats the very purpose of the UDID.

I am not going into the various issues with the procurement of UDID that people face, that is a different matter.

The NPRD's interest is to see that all disabled are able to get UDID in a hassle free process. When the disability certificate is replaced by the UDID and becomes valid for all purposes, it is natural that it will become mandatory (like the certificate earlier) for availing any scheme.

What we have asked for is the difficulties that people are facing in the procurement of the UDID so that we can take it up with the government. Let me make it loud and clear. We have not and do not intend to stall or oppose the UDID.

All the best sathiyo.

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:52 AM Harish Kotian <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi

    It is my personal opinion that UDID should be made mandatory for
    availing all services for the disabled.It should be the only
    identification means for authenticating disability.


    Having said this, all the services should be put in place before
    the D date and scaling  up should be fully factored in. There are
    numerous benefits to us through UDID. We should not fall into the
    temptation of stalling the effort and rather we should clearly not
    join them.


    There may be some difficulty for sometime. That always happens
    during transition. As what they say, you don't throw the baby with
    the bathwater


    I am well aware, there is going to be sharp reactions to my line
    of thought, however I am convinced UDID is progressive and
    disabled friendly and this is the most important thing which can
    make huge changes for our benefit.


    Harish


    On 19/03/2023 06:43, bhawani shankar verma wrote:
    UDID should not be mada mandatory. we must fight collectively for
    it.

    On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 9:09 pm Amar Jain, <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a
        corporate lawyer and have an interface with the authorities
        you are struggling with.

        Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230.
        Thank you.

        Sent from my iPhone

        On 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)
        <[email protected]> wrote:

        
        Dear Muralidharan,
        Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some
        success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They
        make something inaccessible to achieve, manditory to
        achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the
        packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on
        the table even before the distribution to all the attendees.
        This is my experience having come to India. Very sad and
        ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in
        Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be
        bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I
        went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person
        cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted
        person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be
        registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very hurt by
        this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority
        in place who really cares to actually do something.
        Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated.
        Sometimes I feel life was better under our former captivity
        of slave-owners and later the African leadership who hate
        Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How wrong
        was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I
        return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly
        corrupt and disorganized administration. For example, the
        National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess
        what! Only problem is it does not exist!!!
        Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you
        are fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with
        you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized
        and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you
        through this fight.
        Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa)
        *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID

        March 18, 2023

        As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory
        from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government
        schemes.

        This even while more than half of the disabled who have
        certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but
        not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll
        for it, due to various issues.

        UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s
        own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to
        MBBS, for recruitment in jobs,  or many institutes of higher
        learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card

        The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory
        imposition of the UDID.

        It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various
        departments to accept its validity.

        Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the
        department, the issues that the disabled are facing with
        regard to procuring UDID.

        One of the main issues that has been identified especially
        in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva
        kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they
        being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue
        identified is about card not being issued despite passage of
        a long time after enrollment.

        We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week.
        The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed
        before him.

        You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues
        that you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023
        evening at [email protected]

        *Muralidharan*

        *General Secretary*

        *NPRD*

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