absolutely, secondly, it is required to upload data or verification from
the same hospital where a person got disability certificate. Once I have
got disability certificate from district medical board then why it is
necessary for me to approach the same hospital for uploading data or
online verification? as the act says that medical board certificate
fulfill the purpose. and what for those who are having permanent
disability certificate got 10-15 years back. will it become invalid?
this cumpulsion means that I am not blind despite having medical board
certificate until or unless i get UDID card.
On 3/21/2023 4:24 PM, pavan kallem wrote:
Dear all,
I am writing this email in response to the ongoing discussions
regarding the implementation of UDID (Unique Disability ID) for
availing benefits for the disabled community from the central
government.
While I support the idea of UDID, I am concerned about the process and
the difficulties that people with disabilities are facing during the
implementation process. It has come to my notice that the process is
becoming more cumbersome in non-BJP ruled states like Telangana, where
a separate software authenticated mechanism called SADAREM is being
followed, which is causing inconvenience to people with disabilities.
I would also like to bring to your attention the contradictory
guidelines issued by the Union of India, where the government has
issued forms 4, 5, and 6 for application, permanent disability, and
multiple disabilities, respectively. However, the notification under
rule 19 clearly states that a person to whom the certificate is issued
under rule 18 shall be entitled to apply for facilities, concessions,
and benefits admissible for persons with disabilities under schemes of
the government and non-governmental organizations funded by the
government.
Moreover, I have learned that the government is mandating UDID cards,
which have not been mentioned in the primary act, nor have they been
mentioned in the rules issued under it. As a certified permanent
disability community member, I feel that the government is
superimposing something that is not a well-thought-out plan and does
not serve the purpose for which it has been brought.
Therefore, I urge the government to firstly ensure that every person
with disability gets a UDID card and secondly, to remove the
contradictory notifications that are causing confusion among the
disabled community. The government should consider every process that
it mandates, and it should not be a burden for people with
disabilities.
If someone is ready to help me get a UDID card, please contact me at
the number provided below.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
On 3/21/23, George Abraham <[email protected]> wrote:
I had downloaded , printed and laminated the UDID card in Feb 2022. I have
not yet received the printed card that was sent to me by post in May 2022.
Have also managed to download the UDID card onto my Digi Locker. I wonder
whether it is necessary to have the printed card that the Govt mails.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Harish Kotian
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:04 PM
To: [email protected]; Pranav Lal
Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Hi Pranav
Certainly, the portal needs to be fully accessible. This also includes error
messages. Check on the file size to upload. Perhaps the portal would be
having some issue then.
I had applied for UDID long back. It kept on showing the status referred to
district hospital. Last friday I visited the civil hospital and the doctors
uploaded the requisite data.
On Monday the status showed processing for printing. On login, I could
download the card.
The process certainly is made simple now.
Harish
On 21/03/2023 07:28, Pranav Lal wrote:
I have tried applying for the udit card and that is the first obstacle. I
filled the form but was unable to move to the next step and did not get any
error message telling me what was wrong.
Pranav
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Muralidharan Vishwanath
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 10:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Thanks for the feedback
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:29 PM Avichal Bhatnagar <[email protected]>
wrote:
I strongly support the step to make UDID mandatory, as it will help in
removing the unwanted beneficiaries out of the system, like how the
linking of DBT with aadhaar helped in removing lakhs of fraudulent
beneficiaries.
It may also curb to an extent the problem of low vision people
pretending to be totally blind.
That said, we must also hold a dialogue with the department of persons
with disabilities and suggest them measures to expedite the process of
making UDID easily available and accessible to all.
One way could be to rope in the NGO's working at the ground level
especially in the rural areas for organising camps for mass
enrollment.
Another way could be to advertise about UDID far and wide on various
channels of mass communication such as radio stations, TV channels,
newspapers etc like how other schemes are publicised.
Also, various schools/centres catering to the educational needs of the
disabled can be requested to collate the data and help the
students/trainees to apply.
Similarly, the local bodies such as the panchayats and municipalities
can also be made co-partners.
Making UDID mandatory becomes necessary as without the need, nobody cares.
On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Currently instead of making mandatory, we must insist the government
to first link all the benefits offered to PWD's with udid. Once this
is done, most of the pwd's would also then make their way to avail the
udid card. Secondly in respect to the issue of the difficulty in
getting udid card or adhaar card etc is concern, the government need
to facilitate this by empowering the organization who are working for
the development of pwd. Once this is taken care, udid would
automatically be a mandatory element.
On 3/19/23, Muralidharan Vishwanath <[email protected]> wrote:
This has nothing to do with sim cards
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having
Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to
inability
of that software to recognise our iris.
*From:* [email protected]
<[email protected]>
*On
Behalf Of *Ram
*Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Hi,
I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your
retina
can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar
software
itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons.
Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will
succeed
I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor
educated
to handel special cases.
*From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Dear Muralidharan,
Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success.
In
India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something
inaccessible
to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits
each
from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on
the
table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my
experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for
the
blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the
retina
scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either.
When
I
went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own
property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar
so
that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I
am
very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no
authority
in
place who really cares to actually do something.
Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel
life
was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the
African
leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free.
How
wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I
return
home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and
disorganized
administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar
Helpdesk
is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!!
Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are
fighting
a
very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri
Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk
with
you – no – carry you through this fight.
Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa)
*From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID
March 18, 2023
As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April
1,
2023 for registering for central government schemes.
This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates,
have
not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued
certificates,
or
have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues.
UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own
ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for
recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are
refusing
to
accept the validity of the card
The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory
imposition
of
the UDID.
It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to
accept its validity.
Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the
issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID.
One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the
rural
areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres
charging
hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility.
Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage
of
a
long time after enrollment.
We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The
issues
that we are attempting to list will be placed before him.
You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you
face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at
[email protected]
*Muralidharan*
*General Secretary*
*NPRD*
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