Accessibility is still a challenge and would always be. I found in some websites  NVDA works fine and in some JAWS. I could not find the reason behind it.

On 7/13/2025 10:59 PM, Saurav Hegde wrote:
Hi,
I tested it again and yes the performance has improved.
Only, it is not behaving properly when I am opening an Email thread.
Even if I kee toggling scan mode.
Can you try and see?

Regards,
Saurav

On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 10:01 PM Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi Saurav,

    I browsed Gmail, Amazon and HDFC netbanking sites in Google Chrome
    using Narrator on my home laptop post reading your viewpoint and
    am able to navigate them well.

    Note that Scan mode may need be toggled On/Off using
    INSERT+SPACEBAR in the browser window.

    One thing that I found not working as expected is the Capital
    Letter announcement. I have set it to raise pitch however, it
    speaks Cap followed by the letter which is probably the default
    setting.

    Warm Regards,

    Zujar

    Where there’s a will, there’s a way!

    *From:*[email protected]
    <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Saurav Hegde
    *Sent:* 13 July 2025 20:29
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AI] Windows Narrator Experience

    Hi,

    That is the problem.

    The apps you used were all Microsoft apps where Narrator works
    decently.

    Step out of the Microsoft ecosystem and the problem begins.

    Use Narrator with Chrome and observe the terrible compatibility.

    Try to read PDFs on a browser and observe the problems.

    They always kept Narrator as a back up screen reader so that users
    can install NVDA or JAWS with its help and then continue
    with those tools.

    I don't know about others but the Battery feature introduced is
    acting like a hit or miss for me.

    Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

    Thanks,

    Saurav

    On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 3:35 PM Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        Hi AI folks,

        I happened to experience Windows Narrator on an office laptop
        during the past week having my laptop’s hard disk crashed. I
        was browsing Outlook and Teams on my phone however, learnt
        about a spare laptop availability with my team. I got hold of
        it and thought of navigating it using Windows Narrator given
        JAWS download and installation restrictions due to the
        organization’s IT and security policy.

        I found that Narrator has developed quite well with
        significant options like Read Window, Battery Status
        announcement, web page navigation, AI-based Image description,
        etc. I was able to successfully perform the following tasks
        independently:

         1. Turn Narrator On/Off using CTRL+WINDOWS+ENTER.
         2. Pair my Bluetooth headset
         3. Browse freedomscientific site to check if JAWS can be
            downloaded. The download was blocked by the organization’s
            IT policy.
         4. Customize Narrator settings like Auto Start on Windows
            Login screen, Narrator Speech Rate, Natural Voice, Typing
            Echo and so on.
         5. Sign in to Outlook365 through multi-factor authentication
            (MFA) in Google Chrome browser.

             1. Browse through mail folders and access mails
             2. Respond to mails with message text in body and attachments

        While these tasks were fairly difficult using the older
        versions of Narrator, these could be performed easily with the
        current version (around May 2025 release). Looking forward to
        the day when Narrator is fully developed and dependency on
        third-party commercial/free software is reduced. This will
        potentially make Windows accessibility easily available to all
        sections of visually challenged users across the globe.

        I urge you to try out the current version of Narrator and
        share your experiences and tips to extract more benefits from
        this in-built Speech software. ALL the Best!

        Warm Regards,

        Zujar

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