Hi all, What I feel is most of the keyboard commands are same in jaws and NVDA.
When it comes to narrator, it is totally different which makes it difficult to use. I believe if the narrator also follows the same commands, it can really work well. regards tanmay srivastava On Mon, 14 Jul, 2025, 5:34 am BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA, <[email protected]> wrote: > Accessibility is still a challenge and would always be. I found in some > websites NVDA works fine and in some JAWS. I could not find the reason > behind it. > On 7/13/2025 10:59 PM, Saurav Hegde wrote: > > Hi, > I tested it again and yes the performance has improved. > Only, it is not behaving properly when I am opening an Email thread. > Even if I kee toggling scan mode. > Can you try and see? > > Regards, > Saurav > > On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 10:01 PM Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Saurav, >> >> >> >> I browsed Gmail, Amazon and HDFC netbanking sites in Google Chrome using >> Narrator on my home laptop post reading your viewpoint and am able to >> navigate them well. >> >> >> >> Note that Scan mode may need be toggled On/Off using INSERT+SPACEBAR in >> the browser window. >> >> >> >> One thing that I found not working as expected is the Capital Letter >> announcement. I have set it to raise pitch however, it speaks Cap followed >> by the letter which is probably the default setting. >> >> >> >> Warm Regards, >> >> Zujar >> >> >> >> Where there’s a will, there’s a way! >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On >> Behalf Of *Saurav Hegde >> *Sent:* 13 July 2025 20:29 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Windows Narrator Experience >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> That is the problem. >> >> The apps you used were all Microsoft apps where Narrator works decently. >> >> Step out of the Microsoft ecosystem and the problem begins. >> >> Use Narrator with Chrome and observe the terrible compatibility. >> >> Try to read PDFs on a browser and observe the problems. >> >> They always kept Narrator as a back up screen reader so that users can >> install NVDA or JAWS with its help and then continue with those tools. >> >> I don't know about others but the Battery feature introduced is acting >> like a hit or miss for me. >> >> Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Saurav >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 3:35 PM Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi AI folks, >> >> >> >> I happened to experience Windows Narrator on an office laptop during the >> past week having my laptop’s hard disk crashed. I was browsing Outlook and >> Teams on my phone however, learnt about a spare laptop availability with my >> team. I got hold of it and thought of navigating it using Windows Narrator >> given JAWS download and installation restrictions due to the organization’s >> IT and security policy. >> >> >> >> I found that Narrator has developed quite well with significant options >> like Read Window, Battery Status announcement, web page navigation, >> AI-based Image description, etc. I was able to successfully perform the >> following tasks independently: >> >> 1. Turn Narrator On/Off using CTRL+WINDOWS+ENTER. >> 2. Pair my Bluetooth headset >> 3. Browse freedomscientific site to check if JAWS can be downloaded. >> The download was blocked by the organization’s IT policy. >> 4. Customize Narrator settings like Auto Start on Windows Login >> screen, Narrator Speech Rate, Natural Voice, Typing Echo and so on. >> 5. Sign in to Outlook365 through multi-factor authentication (MFA) in >> Google Chrome browser. >> >> >> 1. Browse through mail folders and access mails >> 2. Respond to mails with message text in body and attachments >> >> >> >> While these tasks were fairly difficult using the older versions of >> Narrator, these could be performed easily with the current version (around >> May 2025 release). Looking forward to the day when Narrator is fully >> developed and dependency on third-party commercial/free software is >> reduced. This will potentially make Windows accessibility easily available >> to all sections of visually challenged users across the globe. >> >> >> >> I urge you to try out the current version of Narrator and share your >> experiences and tips to extract more benefits from this in-built Speech >> software. ALL the Best! >> >> >> >> Warm Regards, >> >> Zujar >> >> >> >> Where there’s a will, there’s a way! >> >> >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. 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