dear all, disability is neither a sin nor a crime, no point in hiding it, i agree to what mr. vamshi says. regards kumar amalesh Asstt. Administrative Officer LIC
--- On Sun, 18/4/10, Vamshi. G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Vamshi. G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 12:41 PM Hi, We all are seeing with how much interest the government is pursuing any work when it is related exclusively to the disabled. So, I doubt the possibility of a multipurpose disability card being issued at the national level. Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but disability can be identified by the very presence of the person. So, I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect. Coming to denial of services,even now, we can't escape from being discriminated because there has to be a personal interaction for availing those services. And in the recent past, we've seen some cases wherein we've been successful in availing these services. And Rahul sir, correcting you is a far away thing, first let me understand you, honestly, I didn't get your exact intent when you emphasised so much on my option of availing benefits. So, please educate me in that area, either on the list or off the list. I personally feel having disability on the UID card is one form of inclusiveness. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org >From darkness unto light On 4/18/10, jignesh thakur <jigneshthaku...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sir, > In our country many people consider disability as like asirias crime. > There is a question of expectance, if the disability would menssion on > the card, our lots of application and other things will rejected > automatically. We live in the country where people have not much > respect for disable person. > My point is that the disability on the card will not give us a chanse > to prove ourself at many places. For example once I submitted my > documents for trading account, the company expected it willingly, but > when we had face to face meeting for formalities, he realized that I > am visually impaired person, and he suddenly rejected my application. > How ever I could convince him to give me his services. If I had > produced disability card at that time the result might have different. > That’s why I am against it. > Though vamshisir and other are more intelligent they can thing far > better than me. I am just writing my thoughts. > Thanks. > > > On 4/17/10, rahul cherian <rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com> wrote: >> Let me put it this way. Would you be ok if your religion or you caste were >> on the UID? What if you are a minority community living in a state like >> Gujarat and riots like the Godhra riots happened? Would you want to be >> easily identified based on your religion? My concern with disability being >> one of the parameters is something similar. I am sure this comes across as >> me being paranoid but I think that having disability as one of the >> parameters could lead to abuse of the information to the detriment of >> persons with disabilities. >> >> Vamshi, what you want is a multipurpose certificate of disability which >> you >> can use, at your option, I repeat, at your option to avail of benefits. >> >> I confess that I have not done much research into this area so please >> correct me if I am wrong. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rahul >> >> On 17 April 2010 22:25, Vamshi. G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> But if having disability as one of the fields in the UID exempts me >>> from carrying a separate disability certificate, railway concession >>> certificate, bus travel concession >>> card etc. , and enables me to book all tickets on line by providing >>> the UID number, and I'm provided with all the benefits I'm entitled to >>> without me requiring to go through the cumbersome procedures, I would >>> rather prefer to have it. >>> >>> -- >>> G. Vamshi >>> PH Res : +91 877-2243861 >>> Mobile: +91 9949349497 >>> E-mail ID: >>> gvamsh...@gmail.com >>> Skype: gvamshi81 >>> >>> www.retinaindia.org >>> >From darkness unto light >>> >>> >>> On 4/17/10, rahul cherian <rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com> wrote: >>> > I think that having disability as one of the fields in the UID will be >>> > violative of my right to privacy and could lead to discrimination. I am >>> > against it. >>> > >>> > On 17 April 2010 20:44, ashik <ashikhir...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Dear Friend, >>> >> >>> >> Only because it will serve as an all-in-all identity card. We will not >>> >> have >>> >> carry different cards for different purposes. Sypanthy is not an issue >>> at >>> >> all. >>> >> >>> >> - - - >>> >> Ashik Hirani >>> >> Landline phone: 02849-242233 >>> >> Skype: ashikali.hirani >>> >> I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my >>> >> necklace. >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jignesh thakur" < >>> >> jigneshthaku...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> >> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:03 PM >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Friends, >>> >> This is just my opinion. Why we want to include disability in uid >>> >> card? Our identity is only disability? Lots of will have to suffer >>> >> because of the label disable on the card. General information is >>> >> enough. To mansion disability is just issue. And it will only for >>> >> meaningless sympathy. >>> >> Let me tell you again this is just my opinion. I don’t want to hurt >>> >> anybody. There are lots of intelligent friends are on the list, and >>> >> they know more than me. >>> >> Thanks. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 4/17/10, ashik <ashikhir...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Yes doctor. I think disability must be mentioned in the proposed UID >>> >>> card. >>> >>> And I regret to say that the procedure for the UID card does not >>> include >>> >>> the >>> >>> mention of disability. So, it can be safely concluded that disability >>> >>> will >>> >>> not be mentioned in the UID card. It's a sad story indeed. Proper >>> >>> representation should be maded to the government and we should >>> pressurize >>> >>> it >>> >>> to include disability as one of the thins in the UID card. >>> >>> - - - >>> >>> Ashik Hirani >>> >>> Landline phone: 02849-242233 >>> >>> Skype: ashikali.hirani >>> >>> I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my >>> >>> necklace. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Dr Jalaja" <jalajakumar...@gmail.com> >>> >>> To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> >>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:33 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello sir, >>> >>>> I am also wondering why the list members are remaining >>> >>>> silent in this matter. .Let us wait and see what will happen after >>> >>>> completing all the procedures, and when things are out of our hands >>> >>>> nothing can be done . it is better to take proper notification right >>> now >>> >>>> With regards--------Dr.Jalaja >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>> >>>> changes, >>> >>>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith >>> >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> >>> please >>> >>> visit the list home page at >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. >>> >> >>> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> >> please visit the list home page at >>> >> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. >>> >> >>> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> >> please visit the list home page at >>> >> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > To unsubscribe send a message to >>> > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith >>> > the subject unsubscribe. >>> > >>> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> > visit the list home page at >>> > >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. 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