Hello Amar, Practice makes person perfect, I admire your spirit and would like to see you signing all documents. We all make mistakes ,even after signing so many times ,you still loose control over your signature-it only happens when your mind is not focused but you still cover the distance after few hiccups.
Pankaj -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amar Jain Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] 'Signatures' Special Formalities for passport? Hello, No urgency at all. I tried learning signing, using that scale which small kids use, in which you have letters as blocks and there that much space you need to move your pen and the letter is made. But again it requires hell lot of practice and I didn't find this idea of learning shape that useful. Then I also thought of an option to make one scale of your name itself so just move the pen in those blocks, and you can sign that. But then it might be not valid because what if someone steals that scale? Although legally I think hand writing experts report can be obtained to make it valid in case of any dispute. But don't know whether I am in right direction or not. Can you give me any other idea for learning on how to sign? Somebody also told that on Eyeway radio show there was a mention of some card board, but he didn't know in detail as to what it was and from where to get it. I am totally blind by birth, no idea of shapes of letters, have both plastic and aluminum signature guides. I am not going on 15th now, won't be signing that illiteracy declaration for sure, first of all I will give my 100% effort for learning signature. Now there will be no otherwise kind of situation to this. If I want passport, I will learn signature. That's it. By no chance I want to sign any such illiteracy declaration. I remember, when I went for opening my bank account, my manager very politely said "Don't mind, you are pursuing Law, so, why don't you learn signing the form? I know you are educated, but still it is the thinking, that if you put thumb impression, it means you are illiterate". Though I just explained the problem that due to no vision many a times letters differ bit. This provision of considering persons with thumb impression as illiterate was enshrined in our constitution at the time of making, which is not wrong because it gives protections to rural masses, but makes no difference between the literate and illiterate person. I must appreciate CDSL's approach towards this, while opening demat account, they give instructions to the depository participants to put a remark for we VI as "Person with visual impairment and thumb impression". This directly or indirectly shows that they do make distinction between an illiterate and literate person. Anyways no doubts, the experience of all accessindians will make my task easier. So, a kind request from all of you to please share your views on learning signature on or off the list. And thanks, for this good and positive approach. Looking forward for ideas which may help me in my way. Regards, Amar Jain. -----Original Message----- From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Special Formalities for passport? If you don't need passport urgently, then a suggestion: Why not learn some kind of signature? It helps tremendasly when you apply for bank accounts by using passport as a photo ID. Also, there are banks insisting for signature if you happen to go abroad and try opening an NRI account. Vetri. On 13/10/2010, Rohiet A. Patil <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi! > I made my passport before 1 year approx. > At that time I did not feeled any such application. Just I wrote LHTI > i.e. left hand thumb impration under the every every thumb. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Srikanth Kanuri" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Special Formalities for passport? > > >> hi, unfortunately in our country if we are affixing thumb we have to >> get it attested by a notary there will be one declaration form and >> all the formalities required will be in the instructions of the >> physical form. the authorities insisted me for a gazetted attestation >> on the prescribed proforma and further insisted me to sign an >> illiterate declaration along with it. notary authorization is >> compulsion. >> >> hope it helps. >> >> On 10/12/10, Amar Jain <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Dear All >>> I have filled up passport application online, and will be going to >>> passport office on 15th of Oct. I have seen the website carefully, >>> and have even spoken with the office. The website as such makes no >>> reference to disability >>> or any special formality to be followed except disability certificate, >>> while >>> applying for passport, and the office helpdesk people were not sounding >>> like >>> very trained people. Therefore, I sincerely request you all to let me >>> know >>> that are there any specific formalities to be completed for the >>> passport? >>> I use thumb impression, so will I be required to get the form notarized? >>> I have to go to thane, which will take approx 1.5 hours from where I >>> stay, >>> and I will have to change two trains or one train and one bus at least. >>> Therefore, tell me everything from top to bottom. >>> Sorry for such an informal mail. >>> Regards >>> Amar Jain >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>> changes, please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o >>> rg.in >>> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.or >> g.in >> > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] > with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org > .in > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n first of all will give my 100% for learning signature. To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
