Dear Prateek, Thanks for your impartial analysis on this particular matter. Being vocal and raising the voice is all more necessary and important in order to make the things correct in this World.
Regards, Amit Bhatt On 12/15/10, prateek aggarwal <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > I’ve been following this thread from quite some days and thought to > put forth my views as well. > There has been quite a lot of discussion on whether or not this should > have been brought on the list. According to me, experiences like this > should be brought publicly, so that it can assist others to know the > realities better. > I have never got a chance to get associated with sarthak, hence I have > no information and views against this case. > > I respect the views of The gentlemen who’ve shared their views against > it and at least brought their heart out. I agree that these may not > necessarily be true, but I’ve surely got an impression that there > certainly were things which could have been better then what they were > during the fair. > > We all know that sarthak and many other NGOs are putting their hard > efforts to improve the lives of blind and visually impaired people, > which is really commendable. > However, unfortunately, at the same time there are some NGOs who take > this activity as a donation snatching exercise. > In this scenario its good to know different good and bad experiences > about these organizations and since a large number of learned > community mates are found on this list, I don’t see it wrong to share > such experiences until they are conveyed with pure and true spirits. > > Since many of our learned community mates don’t get chance to attend > the placement events organized by colleges and educational institutes, > job fairs like these are really so useful in order to provide > employment. > I’m really so glad to know that organizations like sarthak, enable > India etc are working incredibly in this field for which I’d like to > wholeheartedly congratulate them for their magnanimous services. > > In my opinion, we as disable candidates as well wil have to change our > attitudes and have to realize that if by any reason we could not be > selected for a job, it might not always be a fault of placement > agency. > There are a number of factors, skillset and things required in order > to get a job, hence we should genuinely analyze ourselves before > making any notion about company or any external placement agency. > > The competition in the job market is mounting every next moment, and > it’s a matter of fact that just apart from talent and right skill set, > we are required to pass attitudinal barriers as well in order to get a > job. > NGOs are playing extremely important role in this direction and I > highly regard their efforts in sensitizing, educating, lobbying and > motivating companies and corporate houses. > We all should not only respect their hard efforts, but try to help > them as well wherever possible. After all, it’s a collective > responsibility of all of us to improve the lives of our community > mates and engender a more smart and self dependent society. > > Here, I truly understand the concerns of people who have attended the > fairs like these and could not get jobs. > The reasons could be many and can be from both the ends I.E. their own > skill set/attitudes or placement agency/company specific, hence here > are certain things which I’d like to suggest to these NGOs who are > working in the field of employment for disable people. > > 1. while organize any job fair or placemen related event, please try > to gather maximum possible information from the participating > companies about current openings and qualifications which are they are > looking for them. > 2. any advertise about such events should be made in accordance to the > information you have seeked from the participating companies, so that > it can be insured that only the people with required skillset are > being called and not others. > 3. after the fair is over, it can be really helpful if you could > public a list of selected candidates. This not only increases the > reputation and respect for your organization, but also motivates other > companies as well as disable candidates to participate and benefit > from such events. > By doing this, where people who could not get job can better analyse > the reasons of their failure, it would also help your organization to > diminish these sort of criticisms. > In this respect, I’m aware that this practice is not followed by > mainstream placement companies, but we should understand that we as > disable people are a close group of people, hence tcertain > alterations in methods may greatly transform the attitudes and > situations. > > > I’d like to express apologies for anything that you might have not > found adequatt, I hereby confirm that all the views above belongs only > to me and do not present the opinions of any other > person/organization. > > I truly respect the sincere efforts of all the NGOs and would like to > wish them best of luck. > > Regards, > Prateek agarwal. > Website: > www.prateekagarwal.webs.com > | > www.prateekagarwal.tk > > best way to get your softwares/websites developed. > You tell, I’ll build. > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: "Shadab Husain" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:55:09 +0530 > Subject: Re: [AI] only for the job fair > Hi Friends, > > It is rightly stated that accusing all the NGOs of wrongdoing is > inappropriate. They are the only bridge between disabled community and the > increasingly hostile corporate world. I myself have seen that NGOs carry out > their work with a very low budget, while people think that they are bagging > huge sums. > > The points lucidly highlighted here were that things should be done > professionally and transparently. If you send a person somewhere for the > interview, at least he should get a chance to be interviewed, no matter > whether he possesses the skills of clearing the interview or not. It should > never happen that the interviewers are clueless about the candidates. Nor > the candidates should get wrong or incomplete information. > > But, even after reoccurrence of all this, if the candidate is being ordered > to be quiet and treated ill, isn't it unfair and remote from > professionalism? > > I am afraid by questioning the credibility of all the NGOs the topic here > has lost its direction. > > Mr Karan Gupta, it is good that your experience in the job fair was > excellent. You have played a key role in positioning Sarthak wherever it > presently is. Nice to learn that you are satisfied with your handiwork. > > Regards > > Shadab > > When you feel afraid or nervous to do a thing then do it because the real > harm which you may thus receive is less poignant than its expectation and > fear. > Easy tips of improving English at > http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/ > My contributions to the press > http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#link > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vamshi. G" < > [email protected]> > To: < > [email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] only for the job fair > > Hi, > > Agree with you all. But when a candidate hasn't got the required > qualifications for the jobs the company has announced, the candidate > should not be called at all, instead of calling him just to increase > the strength of the attendance. > > I am not talking about the current case, as I know nothing about it. > But I attended a job fair for disabled at Delhi, going all the way > from Tirupati, in 2008 where my experience was not that great. I > clearly wrote in my resume that I am working as a lecturer and my > academics are in finance and marketing. > > I was given a list of companies whose interviews I can attend. > > 1. One company said they are not looking for people from teaching > background. > > 2. Another company said they don't have anyone from finance > department to take my interview. > > 3. Third company said I was over qualified for the job they have announced. > > 4. Fourth company said they don't have any openings in finance field. > > Besides, there were a few big MNCs who conducted exams for some posts. > When I told them that I wanted a scribe, they told me that I need not > write the exam. I thought they exempted me from writing the exam, but > later came to know that they exempted me from the recruitment. > > I totally accept with all the companies. But my only concern was > that, had I been told all this before hand, I wouldn't have gone all > the way from Tirupati to Delhi. > > And I totally accept that, any criticism, whether bear or > constructive, should be directed to the concerned parties and not on > public platforms. > > -- > G. Vamshi > PH Res : +91 877-2243861 > Mobile: +91 9949349497 > E-mail ID: > [email protected] > Skype: gvamshi81 > > www.retinaindia.org > >From darkness unto light > > On 12/14/10, George Abraham < > [email protected]> > wrote: >> Dear Friends, >> >> I do know that employment is a major concern for all of us visually >> impaired >> people. Most corporate houses are not very open to hiring blind and >> visually >> impaired people. NGOs and social activists are perhaps the only people who >> are championing the cause of employment for us. It is a huge challenge and >> I >> would appreciate the efforts of the NGOs who have taken on the challenge. >> We >> must realise that NGOs are spending a lot of their time and resources >> sensitising, lobbying and negotiating on our behalf for jobs in the >> private >> sector. The battle is against a formidable mindset, the task is by no >> means >> easy. Further, we must realise that NGOs contrary to popular perceptions, >> work with very limited budgets. My experience tells me that we need to be >> patient and see what we could do to alter the situation on our part. The >> questions to ask ourselves are whether we are well prepared to take on >> interviews, whether our language skills are good enough for the Corporate >> World, whether our qualifications are right and whether we are good enough >> to take on the competition? Remember that the Corporates have several >> choices. >> >> Hence, I do not think it is a great idea to resort to NGO bashing if we >> are >> not finding employment. On the other hand I would focus on self >> development >> and try and cooperate with the NGOs who are fighting for my cause. Yes, we >> all have the right to be disappointed but let us not criticise and crib >> about efforts put in by people who are part of our own team. Hope all of >> you >> would take this mail in the right spirit. >> >> Regards, >> >> George >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "shankar shreya" < > [email protected]> >> To: < > [email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] only for the job fair >> >> >> dear sir, what you are telling is rite! >> not only sarthak all most all ngos in karnataka is doing same thing >> lost few months back different ngos and karnataka govt has arranged >> job fair but no one has got job in visually impaired sector >> 24 resume copies I have given for different companies but no one has got >> the >> job >> we have to do some thing >> >> On 12/14/10, suraj lal < > [email protected]> > wrote: >>> On 12/13/10, Mohd Hashim < > [email protected]> > wrote: >>>> Dear Uphar, you are talking about the job fares of sarthak which is >>>> organized on 10-12-2010, I dont want to go with ditales, I will go >>>> on ditales after a few days with data, in this job fares, I was there as >>>> a >>>> Councilor there was a problem, as you telling this is fact there arre >>>> so >>>> many rush Nether we could understand, nor rush could be understand. >>>> I would like to Mansion after a few days with the all datas, somebody >>>> was >>>> telling there no blind person get job in this fares but this is wrong. >>>> I would like to request to all of you then please come in sarthak, >>>> discusse >>>> the whole issue regarding the same issue. >>>> I have written about critisizm or feedback again I am saying then please >>>> come I will be available there >>>> I am waiting for your positive and prompt response thank you--- On Mon, >>>> 13/12/10, uphar.73 < > [email protected]> > wrote: >>>> >>>> From: uphar.73 < > [email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] EXPERIENCE OF JOB FAIR AT VRC >>>> To: > [email protected] >>>> Date: Monday, 13 December, 2010, 11:00 AM >>>> >>>> Thanks for your response .I am not criticizing any body it was only my >>>> experience which I have shared with you all .There is no need for >>>> aposing >>>> .I >>>> will only suggest to sarthak that if same kind of practice continues >>>> then >>>> sarthak will not last for a longer period in the market of >>>> placement.Thanks! >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mohd Hashim" >>>> < > [email protected]> >>>> To: < > [email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:51 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] EXPERIENCE OF JOB FAIR AT VRC >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear Uphar, are you giving feedback or you are doing critisizm of >>>>> Sarthak, >>>>> I know you have suffered lot of problem in jobfares which is organized >>>>> in >>>>> VRC office by sarthak, but I would like to say to go there in sarthak >>>>> and >>>>> oppose in the front of DR Jitender Aggarwal, when you will go there >>>>> then >>>>> please call me I will be available then please note my number >>>>> +91-8826654692 my skype ID is dontaskme49 please meet me then it will >>>>> be >>>>> discus all the issue regarding the problem >>>>> -- On Fri, 10/12/10, uphar.73 < > [email protected]> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: uphar.73 < > [email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [AI] EXPERIENCE OF JOB FAIR AT VRC >>>>> To: > [email protected] >>>>> Date: Friday, 10 December, 2010, 7:35 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> HELLO TO ALL AI MEMBERS AND DR.JINTENDER SARTHAK I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT >>>>> JOB FAIR CONDUCTED BY SARTHAK TRUST WITH THE HELP OF OTHER NGO’S WAS OF >>>>> NO >>>>> USE AT VRC VIKAS MARGON 10TH OF DEC 2010.THIS IS I AM SAYING BECAUSE I >>>>> PERSONALLY VISITED THERE AND FOUND THAT NO PROPER ARRANGEMENTS WERE >>>>> MADE >>>>> BY THEM FOR SCANNING THE RESUME /JOB PROFILES /CADER AND MANY OTHER >>>>> THINGS >>>>> ALSO.THE MOST SHOCKING WAS TO SEE THAT THE REGISTRATION FORM GIVEN TO >>>>> THE >>>>> CANDIDATES WAS CAREER CENTRIC COMPUTER TRAINING REQUEST FORM COMPUTER >>>>> TRAINING FOR VISUALLY IMPAIRED .WHERE CANDIDATE ACCEPT THE TERMS OF ( I >>>>> UNDERSTAND THAT ATTENDING TRAINING DOES NOT GUARANTEE A JOB BUT >>>>> INCREASE >>>>> MY CHANCES OF EMPLOYMENT.) WHEN I APPEARED FOR THE INTERVIEW THE >>>>> INTERVIEWER WAS NOT EVEN TOLD THAT CANDIDATES WITH VISUALLY DISABILITY >>>>> ARE >>>>> ALSO COMING FOR THE INTERVIEW BUT NOW THEY HAVE TO DO SOME ARRANGEMENTS >>>>> FOR CONDUCTING THE INTERVIEW.THIS SHOWS THAT NO PRIOR INFORMATION WAS >>>>> WITH >>>>> SARTHAK TRUST .IT WAS >>>>> ONLY HIT AND TRIAL METHOD.I APOLOGISE FOR THE SAME IF I HAD SAID >>>>> SOMETHING >>>>> WRONG BUT IT WAS MY EXPERIENCE WHICH I HAVE SHARED WITH YOU ALL. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "sarthak edu" < > [email protected]> >>>>> To: "accessindia" < > [email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 2:44 PM >>>>> Subject: [AI] nasscom sarthak job fair 2010 for persons with disability >>>>> (more information) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Work Addr: Sarthak Educational Trust, Building no. 1,Mohammad Pur, >>>>> Near Bhikaji cama place, New Delhi-66 >>>>> Reg Addr: Sarthak Educational Trust, Building no. 1,Mohammad Pur, >>>>> Near Bhikaji cama place, New Delhi-66 >>>>> Telephone: 011– 42004238 >>>>> Mobile: 9718711463 >>>>> Email: > [email protected] >>>>> Website: > www.sarthakindia.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> JOB FAIR FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITY >>>>> >>>>> An estimated 386 million of the world's working-age people have some >>>>> kind of disability, says the International Labor Organization (ILO). >>>>> Of the some 70 million persons with disabilities in India, only about >>>>> 100,000 have succeeded in obtaining employment in industry. Though a >>>>> dogmatic society and a general lack of understanding towards the >>>>> issue of disability employment plays a major role, India, is >>>>> witnessing a sea change in the Corporate Sector’s attitude towards >>>>> persons with disabilities. India has committed itself to realizing the >>>>> Millennium Development Goals (MDG) for Persons with Disabilities >>>>> through the implementation of the World Programme of Action concerning >>>>> Disabled Persons and the Convention on Rights of Persons with >>>>> Disabilities. >>>>> >>>>> As a step towards Inclusivity, NASSCOM Foundation and Sarthak >>>>> Educational Trust is organizing a first ever JOB FAIR for Persons With >>>>> Disability (PWD) in the IT industry in Delhi. Leading IT/BPO companies >>>>> will be present at the Job Fair and we expect a large number of PWDs >>>>> to be placed in these reputed companies. >>>>> >>>>> Participating company name: >>>>> 1 Wipro >>>>> 2 Ibm >>>>> 3 Netambit >>>>> 4 Team computers >>>>> 5 Ibm daksh >>>>> 6 Design mate >>>>> 7 Aegis >>>>> 8 Newgen >>>>> 9 Tatateleservices >>>>> 10 Clear path technology >>>>> 11 NSN >>>>> 12 Steria >>>>> 13 Black magic tonner >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Job profiles required by companies: >>>>> 1. Programmer >>>>> 2. Production Support >>>>> 3. Service Co-ordinator >>>>> 4. Customer care executive >>>>> 5. Help desk executive >>>>> 6. HR Executive >>>>> 7. Admin Executive >>>>> 8. Finance executive >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Timings : 9:00am – 4:30pm >>>>> Date : 10 December 2010 >>>>> Premise : Vocational rehabilitation center >>>>> Near shanty Mukund Hospital >>>>> Vikas marg extension >>>>> Karkarduma, Delhi -94 >>>>> Registration Procedure:Candidates who are visually impaired, hearing >>>>> impaired and orthopedically challenged can register for the job fair >>>>> by sending their resume on > [email protected] >>>>> For further queries contact us: >>>>> Sarthak Educational Trust >>>>> Building No. 1, Mohammad Pur, >>>>> Near Bhikaji Cama Place >>>>> New Delhi-66 >>>>> Telephone: 011– 42004238 >>>>> Mobile: 9718711463 >>>>> Email: > [email protected] >>>>> Website: > www.sarthakindia.org >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] >>>> with >>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] >>>> with >>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] >>> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> -- >> For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that >> whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life >> >> >> email: > [email protected] >> msn: > [email protected] >> skype: shankar.a >> mobile:+919591846442 >> thanks and regards >> shankar >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. 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