Hello All, My suggestion is to give disability, a code instead of writing in words but it should be mentioned on UID , otherwise it will be just another common ID .
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Renuka Warriar Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? Hi, I think , including disability in the uid can be made optional so that those who want to disclose their disability can include it and those who want to hide it will also be happy Renuka E, Section Officer, ICT Centre for Visually Challlenged, CHMK Library, University ofCalicut, Malappuram Dist., Kerala. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikas Gupta" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > Dear Subhashji and others, > I have been struggling with this issue. I have no clear answer. I > simply want to briefly present a senario. It is although true that in > some cases, if we disclose our identity in advance, then we can expect > some arrangements for us before we reach at that place. However, a > contrary fact is that in India as well as outside, many times it had > happened with me that I could make my way in the mainstream without > declaring my disability. Thanks to for example internet communication > in some cases and due to the norm of confidentiality in others. I was > selected for various things based on my performance. Therefore, in > such cases, generally what happens is that people come to know about > my disability not before I have established my credencials. When they > come to know about it, then some times they are amused to find a > visually impaired in that role, which would lead to quite a lot of > admiration for me by them. Whilst at some other occasions, I have > realized that as soon as they come to know about my disability, they > start showing biased attitude. (I have skipped examples, because I am > in a hurry.) However, as you can see, in both kinds of cases, mention > of my disability has created difference in the attitude of others > towards me. I am not saying that because of this reason, we should or > we can hide our disability. However, the concern is somewhat > different. I am worried that the centralized storage of data and an > increasingly mendatory situation of its demonstration should not lead > to a situation where it becomes for an individual disabled to apply > his mind and decide where it is favorable or dangerous to mention > his/her disability in a world which is surely full of biased atitudes. > > > > On 1/30/11, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <[email protected]> wrote: >> I to agree. Including disability in UI would enable us to carry just one >> card. >> >> On 1/30/11, Dr. mittal <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I too strongly support to launch such a campaign as it will help all >>> persons >>> with disabilities to be free from all hastles of carrying disability >>> certificate. >>> >>> Thanks and regards Prof. Mittal. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of amarnath de >>> Sent: 29 January 2011 20:29 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>> >>> Dear Harish, >>> >>> I also support of inclusion of disability to UI card. >>> >>> Because, I think if I have an UI card I need not to carry handicapped >>> certificate or any kind of concession forms (including Railway >>> concession >>> form) to claim concessions in future. >>> >>> Can accessindia launch a campaign in this direction? >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> Yours sincerely, >>> Amarnath De. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Harish Kotian" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:14 AM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>> >>>> Dear Vashisht >>>> >>>> In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be >>>> opposing inclusion of disability in the UI Card. For, the disabled >>>> themselves understand the hassel of carrying a bag full of ID cards >>>> for proof of disability. >>>> >>>> More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for getting >>>> access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity >>>> from fair use clause. >>>> >>>> I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible to >>>> do so. >>>> >>>> If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority >>>> that should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done >>>> so. Just because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a system >>>> which would help majority of persons. >>>> >>>> Harish Kotian. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "SC Vashishth" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Rajesh, a large number of persons with disabilities do not want their >>>>> disability on their UID Cards. They want to be known by their name >>>>> and number and not by their disability. Argument - when you don't >>>>> write conditions such as Heart Problems, Knee Problems etc or >>>>> Castes/categories such as SC/ST, then why disability which is just a >>>>> condition that persons live with. >>>>> >>>>> This debate perhaps has led to UID dropping disability from the face >>>>> of the card. >>>>> >>>>> Another issue - UID's legal mandate doesn't require it to be a >>>>> replacing document for various other certificates such as a disability >>> certificate. >>>>> This also has a politics of maintaining relevance of certain >>>>> departments/ministries that have a stake in the disability. And they >>>>> do not want to let go their importance. Since, if every important >>>>> information comes on UID then they fear it might render them >>>>> redundant such as a PAN Card (Separate Ministry), Ration Card >>>>> (Separate Ministry), (Disability Certificate (Min. of Health) >>>>> etc...... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 28 January 2011 17:48, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No asif, it does not help, if UDAI does not cover disability. >>>>>> Sorry. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mohammed Asif >>>>>> iqbal >>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:20 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Amar, >>>>>> As you are aware; I am currently working with UIDAI. With mandate >>>>>> of enrolling Pwd. >>>>>> No, data on disability is not being collected. >>>>>> UID only collects data on name, date of birth, father's name/ >>>>>> mother's name/ guardian/ City address. And Email/ mobile no. is >>>>>> optional. >>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>> I will be coming to Bombay soon and hope to catch up with you and >>>>>> explain this in details. >>>>>> Mohammed Asif Iqbal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amar >>>>>> Jain >>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 1:35 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> We are aware that UIDAI will include disability in their database. I >>>>>> saw the form on eaadhaar.com as the form on UIDAI website was >>>>>> unreadable by Jaws, but it does not ask for disability related >>>>>> information. >>>>>> So would like to know if there is anybody who has got UID which >>>>>> includes their disability detail, and procedure which is to be >>>>>> followed? >>>>>> As per help desk soon UID will be allotted in Mumbai. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Amar Jain. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Amar Jain. >>>>>> Website: www.amarjain.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are >>>>>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or >>>>>> entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended >>>>>> recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or >>>>>> copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or >>>>>> attachments to it are strictly prohibited. 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