Dear Subhashji and others, I have been struggling with this issue. I have no clear answer. I simply want to briefly present a senario. It is although true that in some cases, if we disclose our identity in advance, then we can expect some arrangements for us before we reach at that place. However, a contrary fact is that in India as well as outside, many times it had happened with me that I could make my way in the mainstream without declaring my disability. Thanks to for example internet communication in some cases and due to the norm of confidentiality in others. I was selected for various things based on my performance. Therefore, in such cases, generally what happens is that people come to know about my disability not before I have established my credencials. When they come to know about it, then some times they are amused to find a visually impaired in that role, which would lead to quite a lot of admiration for me by them. Whilst at some other occasions, I have realized that as soon as they come to know about my disability, they start showing biased attitude. (I have skipped examples, because I am in a hurry.) However, as you can see, in both kinds of cases, mention of my disability has created difference in the attitude of others towards me. I am not saying that because of this reason, we should or we can hide our disability. However, the concern is somewhat different. I am worried that the centralized storage of data and an increasingly mendatory situation of its demonstration should not lead to a situation where it becomes for an individual disabled to apply his mind and decide where it is favorable or dangerous to mention his/her disability in a world which is surely full of biased atitudes.
On 1/30/11, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <[email protected]> wrote: > I to agree. Including disability in UI would enable us to carry just one > card. > > On 1/30/11, Dr. mittal <[email protected]> wrote: >> I too strongly support to launch such a campaign as it will help all >> persons >> with disabilities to be free from all hastles of carrying disability >> certificate. >> >> Thanks and regards Prof. Mittal. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of amarnath de >> Sent: 29 January 2011 20:29 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >> >> Dear Harish, >> >> I also support of inclusion of disability to UI card. >> >> Because, I think if I have an UI card I need not to carry handicapped >> certificate or any kind of concession forms (including Railway concession >> form) to claim concessions in future. >> >> Can accessindia launch a campaign in this direction? >> >> Regards. >> >> Yours sincerely, >> Amarnath De. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Harish Kotian" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:14 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >> >>> Dear Vashisht >>> >>> In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be >>> opposing inclusion of disability in the UI Card. For, the disabled >>> themselves understand the hassel of carrying a bag full of ID cards >>> for proof of disability. >>> >>> More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for getting >>> access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity >>> from fair use clause. >>> >>> I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible to >>> do so. >>> >>> If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority >>> that should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done >>> so. Just because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a system >>> which would help majority of persons. >>> >>> Harish Kotian. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "SC Vashishth" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>> >>> >>>> Rajesh, a large number of persons with disabilities do not want their >>>> disability on their UID Cards. They want to be known by their name >>>> and number and not by their disability. Argument - when you don't >>>> write conditions such as Heart Problems, Knee Problems etc or >>>> Castes/categories such as SC/ST, then why disability which is just a >>>> condition that persons live with. >>>> >>>> This debate perhaps has led to UID dropping disability from the face >>>> of the card. >>>> >>>> Another issue - UID's legal mandate doesn't require it to be a >>>> replacing document for various other certificates such as a disability >> certificate. >>>> This also has a politics of maintaining relevance of certain >>>> departments/ministries that have a stake in the disability. And they >>>> do not want to let go their importance. Since, if every important >>>> information comes on UID then they fear it might render them >>>> redundant such as a PAN Card (Separate Ministry), Ration Card >>>> (Separate Ministry), (Disability Certificate (Min. of Health) >>>> etc...... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 January 2011 17:48, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No asif, it does not help, if UDAI does not cover disability. >>>>> Sorry. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mohammed Asif >>>>> iqbal >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:20 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>>> >>>>> Hi Amar, >>>>> As you are aware; I am currently working with UIDAI. With mandate >>>>> of enrolling Pwd. >>>>> No, data on disability is not being collected. >>>>> UID only collects data on name, date of birth, father's name/ >>>>> mother's name/ guardian/ City address. And Email/ mobile no. is >>>>> optional. >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> I will be coming to Bombay soon and hope to catch up with you and >>>>> explain this in details. >>>>> Mohammed Asif Iqbal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amar >>>>> Jain >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 1:35 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> We are aware that UIDAI will include disability in their database. I >>>>> saw the form on eaadhaar.com as the form on UIDAI website was >>>>> unreadable by Jaws, but it does not ask for disability related >>>>> information. >>>>> So would like to know if there is anybody who has got UID which >>>>> includes their disability detail, and procedure which is to be >>>>> followed? >>>>> As per help desk soon UID will be allotted in Mumbai. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Amar Jain. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Amar Jain. >>>>> Website: www.amarjain.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are >>>>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or >>>>> entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended >>>>> recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or >>>>> copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or >>>>> attachments to it are strictly prohibited. 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