Well Akhilesh, you being a legal student would know that the Courts action can be sought if the authority works contrary to the legal provisions of a statute. It is not so here.
Vikas, I entirely stand with you when you talk of confusion on whether to declare or not one's disability fearing bias and discrimination. While one person with disability may be able to create good impression over others and positively change attitudes with his ability however, majority of disabled people who were not fortunate enough to receive education the way Vikas or many of us here did, this also might work contrary. More so when the societies have a tendency to look at the half empty glass rather than the half filled. I wish to clarify the objective of UID here. Its not a card but a unique number. Its is also not to tag people on grounds of caste, creed, disability, family, language or even citizenship! Most ministries or people who opposed UID thought that it would be another Card like Ration Card/Voter ID/Disability card or PAN Card etc. and started looking at it from their own profit/loss perspective. However, UID is entirely for different purpose and stands on total scientific footing. This is a 12 digit number to identify every human being including an infant (just born) residing in India, whether or not he has any identification document. This is voluntary and not forced upon people. However, it is expected that gradually every resident will prefer to have this number for it provides a universal identity carrying demographic and biometric identity which can not be duplicated. Today one person with slight changes in name or address or surname can create multiple number of passports, Voter I Cards or PAN Cards. Therefore, the unique ID Number will actually help identifying a person for all other documents such as ration card, disability card, passport, bank account etc and not be an overriding document. Also unlike other documents which are accessible to public and private agencies, the Information available with UID will not be available to private and public agencies. In coming days, this number will surely help the persons with disabilities too in availing lot of benefits. Today it is voluntary, the day will come when every one would crave to have this number. The government seems to have purposefully decided to tread cautiously to achieve success of this project and not antagonize the existing structures. Hope that clarifies. Best, Subhash C Vashishth On 1 February 2011 13:30, akhilesh <[email protected]> wrote: > I fully agree with Mr. amarnath in this connection. > Dear vashishth sir, > Can we not do anything about it through our courts? > at least we should give it a thought, sir. > your positive reply is expected. > With regards, > Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya. > > > > > On 1/31/11, amarnath de <[email protected]> wrote: > > If UID cannot serve our purpose then what is the need of it? The > government > > is misusing our income and giving our earned money to its agency and > > generating income for some persons for meaningless purpose. It is making > the > > system more complex rather than simplifying. > > > > It is unnecessarily putting burden to us. > > > > Hope, government may use the database to make our life simple as > suggested. > > > > Amarnath. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:14 PM > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > > > >> So, am I correct that UID is hardly anything more than an additional > wrung > >> > >> of formalities to be completed to obtain various services in India? > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mohammed > Asif > >> > >> iqbal > >> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:28 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > >> > >> Sorry for delay in replying. > >> Please understand that UIDAI is not issuing card rather it is just > >> issueing > >> letter which contains number. However bottom portion of the letter can > be > >> torn and stored for remembering the numbers. State government is free > to > >> issue card that is if it serve their purpose. > >> Please also understand that UIDAI is not superceeding ministery and it > has > >> to work with existing ministry hence it is not collecting data on cast/ > >> community/ religion/. SC/ST/ OBC/ disability as well as it is not > >> empowered > >> to verify whether one is able/ disabled. > >> Thanks and hope this clearifies. > >> Asif > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC > Vashishth > >> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:34 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > >> > >> Dear Harish, > >> > >> Sadly that is not so. Its not only "for the disabled" but of the > disabled > >> also wanting this. The degree of social acceptance of different > >> disabilities > >> is different and this is a harsh truth. While those with visual > >> impairments > >> may be keen in getting their disability included on UID but those with > few > >> other disabilities have not been comfortable in declaring the same on > the > >> face of it for the fear of discrimination and other obvious reasons. > >> > >> Another reason that I see is that not all disabilities enumerated in the > >> PWD > >> Act have got benefited from being declared as a Person with disability > >> except few. Thus for them, including it on the UID carries no benefit. > On > >> the contrary, they fear this might lead to discrimination. > >> > >> May be UID representatives/Mr. Asif could answer the specific reason as > to > >> why this was dropped and what can be done to salvage it at least for > >> those > >> who are willing and want to include this. > >> regards > >> > >> > >> 29 January 2011 11:14, Harish Kotian <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Dear Vashisht > >>> > >>> In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be > opposing > >>> inclusion of disability in the UI Card. For, the disabled themselves > >>> understand the hassel of carrying a bag full of ID cards for proof of > >>> disability. > >>> > >>> More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for getting > >>> access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity > from > >>> fair use clause. > >>> > >>> I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible to > do > >>> so. > >>> > >>> If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority > that > >>> should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done so. Just > >>> because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a system which > would > >>> help majority of persons. > >>> > >>> Harish Kotian. > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "SC Vashishth" <[email protected]> > >>> To: <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > >>> > >>> > >>> > Rajesh, a large number of persons with disabilities do not want their > >>> > disability on their UID Cards. They want to be known by their name > and > >>> > number and not by their disability. Argument - when you don't write > >>> > conditions such as Heart Problems, Knee Problems etc or > >>> > Castes/categories such as SC/ST, then why disability which is just a > >>> > condition that persons live with. > >>> > > >>> > This debate perhaps has led to UID dropping disability from the face > of > >>> the > >>> > card. > >>> > > >>> > Another issue - UID's legal mandate doesn't require it to be a > >>> > replacing > >>> > document for various other certificates such as a disability > >> certificate. > >>> > This also has a politics of maintaining relevance of certain > >>> > departments/ministries that have a stake in the disability. And they > do > >>> not > >>> > want to let go their importance. Since, if every important > information > >>> comes > >>> > on UID then they fear it might render them redundant such as a PAN > Card > >>> > (Separate Ministry), Ration Card (Separate Ministry), (Disability > >>> > Certificate (Min. of Health) etc...... > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On 28 January 2011 17:48, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> No asif, it does not help, if UDAI does not cover disability. > >>> >> Sorry. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: [email protected] [mailto: > >>> >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mohammed Asif > >>> iqbal > >>> >> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:20 PM > >>> >> To: [email protected] > >>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi Amar, > >>> >> As you are aware; I am currently working with UIDAI. With mandate > of > >>> >> enrolling Pwd. > >>> >> No, data on disability is not being collected. > >>> >> UID only collects data on name, date of birth, father's name/ > mother's > >>> >> name/ > >>> >> guardian/ City address. And Email/ mobile no. is optional. > >>> >> Hope this helps. > >>> >> I will be coming to Bombay soon and hope to catch up with you and > >>> explain > >>> >> this in details. > >>> >> Mohammed Asif Iqbal > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: [email protected] > >>> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amar > Jain > >>> >> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 1:35 PM > >>> >> To: [email protected] > >>> >> Subject: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > >>> >> > >>> >> Dear All, > >>> >> We are aware that UIDAI will include disability in their database. I > >>> >> saw the form on eaadhaar.com as the form on UIDAI website was > >>> >> unreadable by Jaws, but it does not ask for disability related > >>> >> information. > >>> >> So would like to know if there is anybody who has got UID which > >>> >> includes their disability detail, and procedure which is to be > >>> >> followed? > >>> >> As per help desk soon UID will be allotted in Mumbai. > >>> >> Regards > >>> >> Amar Jain. > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> Amar Jain. > >>> >> Website: www.amarjain.com > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential > >>> and > >>> >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > >> are > >>> >> addressed. 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